Dear Google: please make the HTC Nexus 5

March 23, 2013
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I have a confession to make. The HTC Nexus One is still one of my favorite devices. Sure, multi-touch was a mess and Eclair was a work in progress, but I loved it. Fast forward a few years and Android has evolved, Samsung is a powerhouse, and HTC is struggling to keep their head above water. The Nexus 4 has arrived from LG, we all know what the GALAXY S 4 is about, and now everyone is focused on Motorola. That being said, I want an HTC Nexus 5.

Before the LG Nexus 4 arrived on the scene there was plenty of rumors suggesting Google was preparing an HTC Nexus 5. Most likely they were just dreams like mine, but it would certainly be a dream worth coming true for both parties involved. I even wrote a post titled HTC Nexus 5 rumors skip over LG. We all know how that turned out, but it doesn't mean an HTC isn't in the works.

Now this is just opinion here, hence the title being what it is, so take it as you will. We've heard tons of rumors and talk about Samsung being "too big" and them obviously having the outright majority of Android users on their side. With that, some are worried. Then of course competition is good for growth and innovation, and Samsung needs some competition - especially after looking at their S4. This is where Google and HTC come in. Not only does the HTC Nexus 5 match the "Nexus" update schedule and naming, it would be the perfect evolution to the line. The Galaxy Nexus at 4.65-inches, Nexus 4 at 4.7, and then the HTC Nexus with a 5-inch 1080p HD display. Perfect!

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Clearly Google is focused on Motorola, but that won't stop them from working with others. Or at least it shouldn't. While their pricing strategy might not immediately save HTC from their downward spiral, it would surely be taking things in the right direction. Launch a flagship HTC Nexus 5 with the beautiful design cues of the "One" in a form factor like the DROID DNA. Give us stock Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie and a powerful processor all for the Nexus 4 price, on all major carriers, and with 4G LTE. Sounds good right?

HTC Nexus 5 specs:
- Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie
- 5-inch 1920 x 1080p Full HD SLCD3 (or 4) display
- Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 quad-core 2.3 GHz processor
- 2GB of RAM
- 32GB storage
- 13 megapixel camera (or a better UltraPixel camera)
- Front facing speakers (Beats Audio?)
- 3,300 mAh battery

I said it once and I'll say it again, the DROID DNA should've been the Nexus 5. Give us that phone with stock Android and a bigger battery, and it would be killer. HTC and Google are both in the perfect position to do exactly that. The past two Nexus smartphones have been released during the Q4 holiday season and it would be perfect to do exactly that with the Nexus 5.

Google will probably be focused on Android 5.0 KLP, Motorola, and Project Glass at Google I/O in May. That gives them plenty of time to refine and perfect the next Nexus, that being the HTC Nexus 5. Bring top tier specs and the latest version of Android to a truly premium feeling flagship smartphone - and offer it to everyone on the Google Play Store. Hopefully this time they'll have enough stock to go around too.

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While this all sounds like a geeks wish list everything about it is highly plausible. The specs aren't overboard and unrealistic, Google's worked with HTC in the past, and of course it would be great for competition and help HTC in these struggling times. For now we have no clue what the folks from Mountain View have brewing, but we've seen various leaks of a Motorola device that looks extremely similar to a Nexus. Then last week heard rumors that LG will be on board for the Nexus 5.

We can't wait to see what Google does next in the Nexus line, but hope HTC has something to do with it. What do you guys think, or what do you want?


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  • Captain_Doug

    Stock android, bigger battery, more storage and on screen keys. I’ve been ignoring 5″ phones but if it was based off of the HTC One but with a bigger display or just to simply go with the DNA, I would get it. (basically, what you listed)

    • http://www.androidcommunity.com Cory Gunther

      haha I knew you’d like this Doug. If the bezels are small enough I’d be happy with a 5-inch display too. Otherwise 4.7 is perfect

      • Captain_Doug

        It’s extremely well written. What’s not to like? Doesn’t hurt that we have similar(if not the same) taste in phones.

      • Captain_Doug

        PS, you should check out the Xperia SP. So far it’s the best looking and best spec’d average size phone I’ve seen. Battery life should be great, and it has a microsd slot. The light bar is kinda gimmicky but it looks good even if you don’t use it.

    • gmaninvan

      I agree. I won’t buy a phone without on screen nav. I like the options it gives you. You can’t customize your nav bar in a capacitive key setup like the S4 and the One and that would annoy me.

  • http://www.pocketdroid.net/ Florian Mihu

    good point, and good read! remains to determine whether or not mobile makers are themselves SMART enough to follow end users opinion. It is the best and the ONLY feedback that matters. Start selling what we want HTC or die like a commoner

  • http://www.facebook.com/keithh1981 Keith E. Hendrickson

    DNA was a bust. Cannot replace battery, no external SD card slot and the phone would be lucky to last 3 hours! This is what you want from a flagship Nexus phone? How about something of quality and sure specs, Samsung S4 as the Nexus 5. Without touchwiz. Bam, you already got the best phone. If they want also they can take the design of the Motorola Razr HD Maxxx in a 5 in frame just to add the better quality build to it.

    HTC will be out of business in 2-3 years, their phones are crap and you know they are desperate when that have to add beats audio for a gimmicky feature. What is the point of having great sound when HTC phones get horrible connection? Even beats audio is looking to ditch the embarrassment of HTC, they lose too much money on a company that is going under.

    • http://www.facebook.com/unclehefta James Abdul-Hefta Sutherland

      What’s the point in having to yank the battery out because of dodgy software, or carry a second because the first isn’t man enough. Also, SD cards are something external that can and WILL fail. I’ve had 4 go on me in under 3 months.

      • Paul Dettore

        Exactly, people are clinging to old stuff with the removable battery thing, even when I had a phone with one, my granddaddy HD2, I literally only took the battery out to flash since it was faster than shutdown, other than that why do I need to pull it? Me personally I would love to see Asus get a shot at it, quite frankly the N7 was so perfect, I was surprised they weren’t given the green light for the 4 or 5 right then.

      • Luisito Mercado

        If they’re not gonna make batteries removable, then they should atleast make them all 3,000mAh + batteries, so we don’t have the need to replace them… Also, if they’re gonna get rid of SD Card slots, then make 32GB the default smartphone storage and optional 64GB, maybe even 128GB… That way I will never complaint about an unremovable battery or the lack of an sd card slot on any smartphone :)

      • gmaninvan

        I do agree with this but not necessarily for a Nexus. They have to make concessions in certain areas to hit the low price points. I know storage is cheap but it is the logical place to cut for Google considering they are a cloud services company. They want you to use the cloud which I realize is inconvenient for some.

    • gmaninvan

      I don’t own an HTC but I do respect their quality. Are you actually going to tell me that the minor bump S4 is a nicer phone than the HTC One? As far as flagships go, Samsung makes the cheapest, most unoriginal device in the S4. HTC has made the One from premium metal, LG uses a crystal reflective glass back, and Sony has the Xperia Z with an excellent design with a glass back and full certified waterproofing.

      • IRIE4IPIEIR

        If you buy a phone just because of the way it looks then you are a fucking idiot. All you former iPhone users are annoying as hell. HTC phones are junk, always have some kind of hardware or software issue. Idiot, ”HTC One is better because its aluminum” smh

      • gmaninvan

        Well wasn’t that mature. Nice job launching into a tirade full of personal insults. You do realize that makes you look extremely uneducated right? So you are going to actually tell me aesthetics don’t matter? I guess you would be satisfied with you car being an ugly angular mess for the purpose of aerodynamics too right?

        First off, I am not a former iPhone user, I have been an android fan since I first read the business model and I’m on my second Nexus. Secondly, the quality of build materials does matter since these are two devices running the exact same version of android. If you don’t take that into account then you are basing your opinion entirely on internals and whether or not you like touchwhiz or sense more. You speak about quality but that is complete bs. It’s like you work at Samsung or something. I know plenty of people with HTC phones and none have had any issues. If you are referring to software issues, look no further than the massive resource hogs earlier versions of touchwhiz were.

        Next time, instead of randomly insulting objective posts and tossing out opinion as fact, you actually try posting something with substance.

        Keep on trollin bud. I’m sure nobody agrees with your last post.

      • IRIE4IPIEIR

        So other than the phone having an aluminum back, what makes the HTC One better than let’s say, a Galaxy Note 2 or Galaxy S4? Blink feed? C’mon try harder…….front facing speakers? Updates that take about a year to arrive? Oh wait maybe its the clock widget, bingo that’s it, HTC phones are head and shoulders better than those PLASTIC piece of shits the #1 Smartphone manufacture makes. I’m gonna buy a an HTC phone because it has aluminum on it, only to turn around and put a big fat ugly case on it anyways. SMH. I used to love HTC as well, but not because their phones are made out of aluminum, but because they actually were ahead of the competition in terms of software. I known what I’m talking about on this matter, I up upgrade my phone every 4-6 months. People like you are polluting the internet with “Samsung phones suck because they are plastic” but yet when I hold Samsung phones in my hand, they feel well built, I’ve dropped the S2, Nexus S, S3 Note 2 all on concrete with no case on either and none of them needed to be replaced due to cracked screens.

        So tell me, why are HTC phones better than Samsung phones? It surely it ain’t the un removable battery, or the fact that they don’t have expandable storage, maybe its the fact that the HTC One is Aluminum and Samsung phone are not, maybe that’s it.

      • gmaninvan

        Ok, you reallly want to get into the nitty gritty eh? First off, I am not an HTC “fan”, my last device was a Nexus S made by your beloved Samsung and it was a great device but I am also aware of its shortcomings in quality of materials.

        “Blink feed? C’mon try harder……”

        You mention blink feed but what does the S4 add other than eye tracking that is particularly innovative? You neglect HTC Zoe which is a pretty cool innovative feature that seamlessly blends still images with video to create rich content. Blinkfeed is kind of a novelty but it is still useful, a prebuilt homescreen that gives quick access to content. Samsung on the other hand continues to build “S” apps which are typically crappy replacements for Googles own products which perform much better.

        “.front facing speakers?”

        The speakers on the One S have been mentioned in multiple reviews as head and shoulders above any smartphone currently on the market and if you can’t recognize the obvious benefit to having speakers face you then I don’t know what you are smoking.

        ” Updates that take about a year to arrive?”

        You really need to do your research. The One S and One X were on Jellybean before the S3. A ton of carriers still haven’t updated the S3 to Jellybean. I am really curious what you are basing this off of because I suspect it is completely fabricated. If it isn’t, feel free to show me evidence.

        “HTC phones are head and shoulders better than those PLASTIC piece of shits the #1 Smartphone manufacture makes”

        Actually yes, but not everyone has Samsungs marketing budget. Samsung spent $401M to HTC’s $46M on marketing last year.

        http://9to5mac.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/apple-vs-samsung-advertising-ad-budget-2012.jpg?w=444&h=212

        It doesn’t take a genius to see how that would lead to more sales. Especially when you air two frickin ads at the super bowl.

        ” I’m gonna buy a an HTC phone because it has aluminum on it, only to turn around and put a big fat ugly case on it anyways”

        Believe it or not, there are people in this world who don’t put bulky cases on their phones, myself being one of them. I am not saying I leave my device unprotected, I have Skinomi Tech skin on it but I prefer to maintain the original form factor.

        The reality is, if you like plastic that is your preference and that is fine. It does present the advantage of being lighter. However, to argue that it is as premium as an anodized aluminum back is preposterous. Aluminum is simply a more expensive material. Samsung can tell you all day that they do it for durability but the reality is that they do it to inflate their profit margins. That argument will hold up against glass like the Nexus and Xperia but not metal. Also, if that was the case, then why did Samsung make the Ativ with a metal case? Let me tell you, because it is low volume and they figured they could increase windows phone sales to reduce their reliance on android by giving it a more premium feel. They don’t mind it cannibalizing the S3 sales since it is still their sales. It didn’t work out that way and that didn’t matter either. They leave the S3 plastic because when you sell 30 million devices, they want to make more money on them and know people will buy them anyways.

        “I used to love HTC as well, but not because their phones are made out of aluminum, but because they actually were ahead of the competition in terms of software”

        First off, not an HTC fan, I just recognize that the One is a better built device. Second, I don’t see how this is relevant. It implies that Samsung has the software advantage. I don’t think either have an advantage in this arena.

        ” I known what I’m talking about on this matter, I up upgrade my phone every 4-6 months.”

        Again, don’t see how this makes you an expert. If anything it makes you a big time consumer and I am sure Samsung loves you for it.

        “People like you are polluting the internet with “Samsung phones suck because they are plastic” but yet when I hold Samsung phones in my hand, they feel well built, I’ve dropped the S2, Nexus S, S3 Note 2 all on concrete with no case on either and none of them needed to be replaced due to cracked screens.”

        We aren’t talking about the screens we are talking about the body. For the record, both HTC and Samsung use the same Gorilla Glass 2 panels on their devices so that is irrelevant. This also implies that the HTC will break. Nobody ever said the plastic wasn’t durable, it was just that it is cheap and a clear example of Samsung trying to pad their profits when their direct competitors are using more expensive materials.

        “So tell me, why are HTC phones better than Samsung phones? It surely it ain’t the un removable battery, or the fact that they don’t have expandable storage, maybe its the fact that the HTC One is Aluminum and Samsung phone are not, maybe that’s it.”

        Ok, so you want to do a hardware comparison.

        Samsung definitely has the advantage of removable storage and battery. I will absolutely give you that. I personally couldn’t care less about either but I know it is a big issue for some. You do however forget why they make batteries non removable in Apple, Sony, Motorola, LG, etc. phones these days. It is to provide them with greater structural integrity. You drop the one, you just pick it up. You drop the S3, you pick up the phone, the battery, the back cover plate, put the battery back in, put the cover plate back on, then power the device back up. If this happened during a phone call, I am still talking on the One, you have to call the person back.

        On other hardware notes. The One uses a brand new 4Mp Ultrapixel camera. Brand new technology that is already proving to take better low light shots than conventional shooters. Lets also not forget the vastly superior quality speakers and the better screen absent pentile matrix sub pixels

        If you actually did your research, you would see that there is a little more to the argument than “aluminum vs. plastic”. I haven’t even gotten into the argument that samsung presents a threat to consumers due to having too great of the android market share. In order to have innovative products, you need competition, and Samsung is doing a good job of killing that.

      • gmaninvan

        Ok, you reallly want to get into the nitty gritty eh? First off, I am not an HTC “fan”, my last device was a Nexus S made by your beloved Samsung and it was a great device but I am also aware of its shortcomings in quality of materials.

        “Blink feed? C’mon try harder……”

        You mention blink feed but what does the S4 add other than eye tracking that is particularly innovative? You neglect HTC Zoe which is a pretty cool innovative feature that seamlessly blends still images with video to create rich content. Blinkfeed is kind of a novelty but it is still useful, a prebuilt homescreen that gives quick access to content. Samsung on the other hand continues to build “S” apps which are typically crappy replacements for Googles own products which perform much better.

        “.front facing speakers?”

        The speakers on the One have been mentioned in multiple reviews as head and shoulders above any smartphone currently on the market and if you can’t recognize the obvious benefit to having speakers face you then I don’t know what you are smoking.

        ” Updates that take about a year to arrive?”

        You really need to do your research. The One S and One X were on Jellybean before the S3. A ton of carriers still haven’t updated the S3 to Jellybean. I am really curious what you are basing this off of because I suspect it is completely fabricated. If it isn’t, feel free to show me evidence.

        “HTC phones are head and shoulders better than those PLASTIC piece of shits the #1 Smartphone manufacture makes”

        Actually yes, but not everyone has Samsungs marketing budget. Samsung spent $401M to HTC’s $46M on marketing last year.

        It doesn’t take a genius to see how that would lead to more sales. Especially when you air two frickin ads at the super bowl.

        ” I’m gonna buy a an HTC phone because it has aluminum on it, only to turn around and put a big fat ugly case on it anyways”

        Believe it or not, there are people in this world who don’t put bulky cases on their phones, myself being one of them. I am not saying I leave my device unprotected, I have Skinomi Tech skin on it but I prefer to maintain the original form factor.

        The reality is, if you like plastic that is your preference and that is fine. It does present the advantage of being lighter. However, to argue that it is as premium as an anodized aluminum back is preposterous. Aluminum is simply a more expensive material. Samsung can tell you all day that they do it for durability but the reality is that they do it to inflate their profit margins. That argument will hold up against glass like the Nexus and Xperia but not metal. Also, if that was the case, then why did Samsung make the Ativ with a metal case? Let me tell you, because it is low volume and they figured they could increase windows phone sales to reduce their reliance on android by giving it a more premium feel. They don’t mind it cannibalizing the S3 sales since it is still their sales. It didn’t work out that way and that didn’t matter either. They leave the S3 plastic because when you sell 30 million devices, they want to make more money on them and know people will buy them anyways.

        “I used to love HTC as well, but not because their phones are made out of aluminum, but because they actually were ahead of the competition in terms of software”

        First off, not an HTC fan, I just recognize that the One is a better built device. Second, I don’t see how this is relevant. It implies that Samsung has the software advantage. I don’t think either have an advantage in this arena.

        ” I known what I’m talking about on this matter, I up upgrade my phone every 4-6 months.”

        Again, don’t see how this makes you an expert. If anything it makes you a big time consumer and I am sure Samsung loves you for it.

        “People like you are polluting the internet with “Samsung phones suck because they are plastic” but yet when I hold Samsung phones in my hand, they feel well built, I’ve dropped the S2, Nexus S, S3 Note 2 all on concrete with no case on either and none of them needed to be replaced due to cracked screens.”

        We aren’t talking about the screens we are talking about the body. For the record, both HTC and Samsung use the same Gorilla Glass 2 panels on their devices so that is irrelevant. This also implies that the HTC will break. Nobody ever said the plastic wasn’t durable, it was just that it is cheap and a clear example of Samsung trying to pad their profits when their direct competitors are using more expensive materials.

        “So tell me, why are HTC phones better than Samsung phones? It surely it ain’t the un removable battery, or the fact that they don’t have expandable storage, maybe its the fact that the HTC One is Aluminum and Samsung phone are not, maybe that’s it.”

        Ok, so you want to do a hardware comparison.

        Samsung definitely has the advantage of removable storage and battery. I will absolutely give you that. I personally couldn’t care less about either but I know it is a big issue for some. You do however forget why they make batteries non removable in Apple, Sony, Motorola, LG, etc. phones these days. It is to provide them with greater structural integrity. You drop the one, you just pick it up. You drop the S3, you pick up the phone, the battery, the back cover plate, put the battery back in, put the cover plate back on, then power the device back up. If this happened during a phone call, I am still talking on the One, you have to call the person back.

        On other hardware notes. The One uses a brand new 4Mp Ultrapixel camera. Brand new technology that is already proving to take better low light shots than conventional shooters due to layering the image sensors. Lets also not forget the vastly superior quality speakers and a better screen absent pentile matrix sub pixels.

        If you actually did your research, you would see that there is a little more to the argument than “aluminum vs. plastic”. I haven’t even gotten into the argument that samsung presents a threat to consumers due to having too great of the android market share. In order to have innovative products, you need competition, and Samsung is doing a good job of killing that.

      • maninder singh

        Also remember dat htc woz a major trendsetter in the market,like dey introduced d first 720p screen nd also d first 1080p screen,but look at Samsung going for bigger nd bigger screens,i dnt like it personally,but some may like it.i own a Samsung galaxy tab 2 7.0 which woz gifted to me after my exams nd i had no intentions to buy it bfore,but after using it,i feel its d only premium device frm Samsung in android(correct me if i’m wrong).but i really liked it.

      • http://www.androidcommunity.com Cory Gunther

        The front facing speakers are actually amazing. I HATE HATE having to cup my phone to try and get better sound from it, and it’s never loud enough.

        Not with the ONE.

      • Indydi

        Who wants a glass phone? How can that not be more fragile than polycarbonate? Don’t you immediately put a case on your phone anyway? I like lightweight plastic and actually find it attractive. Even aluminum is damage-prone. The One might be close to the S4, but it’s not better for many reasons, not the least of which is the unremovable battery and lack of SD expansion.

      • gmaninvan

        Glass phones are definitely more fragile, I don’t believe I ever disputed that. I also don’t see any issue with you liking plastic phones, that is your preference. I actually like the soft touch plastic used on some devices. The Samsungs do feel cheap though and look like the same plastic used on a storm troopers helmet lol.

        However, I do not see how you came to the conclusion that aluminum is more damage prone than plastic. It is stronger against impact, has greater scratch resistance, and is less likely to crack.

        As far as hardware, you can argue the other way too. I agree on the unremovable battery and sd as I acknowledged in my last post. The Ultrapixel camera, better screen, and better audio are also factors.

    • Jason Long

      Ok, I am using a DNA and it is an excellent phone! I use my phone all day long and there is still plenty of charge left at the end of the day. The build quality is awesome… Not plastic like Samsung galaxy S3/S4. The call quality is far better than any other phone I’ve ever had and the Sense UI has come a long way recently. I do agree though that you should be able to replace the battery but I can live with it. As far as the sd card goes, I can live without it too since there are plenty of cloud storage options available today. I had the HTC Hero and thought it was a terrible phone and hated HTC phones after that but when I saw the DNA I decided to give them another shot and I have not been disappointed with the 1080p screen and quad core processor.

    • Ryuuie

      Damn. Why’d I even post. XD You said pretty much everything I said except better.

      Seriously, HTC is bad and won’t last long. We don’t need a Nexus from them.

  • http://twitter.com/Darkmyth_pt Darkmyth PT

    mental nerdgasm… those were perfect specs….

  • http://www.facebook.com/keithh1981 Keith E. Hendrickson

    http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-s-4-doubles-iphone-5s-benchmark-scores-20130318/ Yea, we really want a crap HTC one as a Nexus. There is a reason why HTC is going under. This year was do or die for HTC they had to put out a phone of equal power and efficiency yet the failed again. With HTC already crying about not getting enough time to sell their phone before S4 hits you already know they are looking at defeat.

    • http://www.androidcommunity.com Cory Gunther

      Did you see the HTC One Benchmark? If that’s all we’re going on here, it topped 12,000 in Quadrant which no device has done before. It is extremely impressive.

      Don’t knock the HTC One until you try it guys!

      • IRIE4IPIEIR

        LOL, if you go around basing your buying decisions on quadrant benchmarks, then I have to question your credibility. The only thing that has the HTC One feeling like its a smooth performer is Android 4.1, Touchwiz, love it or hate it, has ran buttery smooth since Android 2.3. Loved you while you were great HTC and I hate to see you go, but you did this to yourselves. Should’ve stood your ground against bastards like Microsoft and Apple. Sense is part of your downfall, and making exclusive deals with the likes of Sprint and Verizon didn’t help your cause either. RIP in a fee years I think. They can’t even make enough of the HTC One for the 210 preorders, lol

      • http://www.androidcommunity.com Cory Gunther

        Oh I don’t. Trust me. I get them ALL to review, so benchmarks absolutely don’t matter to me in reality. I was replying to his comment stating how good the S4 beat the iPhone 5 in benchmarks, as that’s why he called HTC crap.

        RIERIPIEIR why so angry? Can’t we have a friendly convo here haha

  • Vince

    Bla bla bla, it will be made by LG.

    • IHATEHIPSTERSSS

      Why are they choosing LG a SECOND time? And with the avalability issues the nexus 4 had?

      • gmaninvan

        I would like to hope that they would ramp up production a little better in anticipation this time. I think they based it off of the units sold of the Galaxy Nexus, which were much lower. However, Google hasn’t been able to prove that they can handle supply chain management yet. I think they will get the balance eventually but they haven’t nailed it yet, regardless of the OEM. Lets not forget they had the same problem with the launch of the Nexus 7.

      • IHATEHIPSTERSSS

        True…

      • gmaninvan

        Lets also not forget that Google bought buffer box which specializes in distribution. The fruits of this could hopefully come to light soon with few days delivery to specialized kiosks in something like a 7-11

      • Vince

        The fault for the Nexus 4 (as for the Nexus 7) was not exactly from the supplier, was because of Google mainly. And if you see right now, we don’t have any availability issues on the nexus 4, so what’s the problem? Also, look the availability issue from the HTC One ! You want the same for the Nexus 5? A fault from Google plus from the manufacturer, double combo…Sorry but no, I don’t want this, also I’m not ready to change phones before long time haha, I like so much my Optimus G :p

      • http://www.androidcommunity.com Cory Gunther

        The problem is we finally don’t have supply issues, but this is how many months after launch.. If you have to wait 4-5 months for the supple to be there, you might as well pass. Jus sayin

  • Chris Stroemel

    No, give us the Nexus 4.0.

    The lack of reasonably sized phones with good specs is really a shame.

  • Al Chandler

    “should’ve been the nexus 5″, when did they release it lol.

  • gmaninvan

    I do like the HTC products but I also really like the Nexus 4. It feels incredibly good in the hand and feels premium. I would personally really like to see a Nexus from Sony.

    A. Because they haven’t done one
    B. Because they need the PR
    C. Because if they make it anything like the Xperia Z, it will be a beautiful device!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/unclehefta James Abdul-Hefta Sutherland

      The Xperia Z feels awful when you hold it, I was really disappointed.

      • gmaninvan

        Really? That surprises me. I will hold judgement until next month when it arrives in Canada.

      • http://www.facebook.com/unclehefta James Abdul-Hefta Sutherland

        Obviously it might just be me, but always worth getting the phone in your hand before purchasing!

      • gmaninvan

        I totally agree. I am not in the market anyways. I just got a Nexus 4 not too long ago and I love it. It is a great device.

      • http://www.facebook.com/unclehefta James Abdul-Hefta Sutherland

        My N4 has been put on the shelf until Ubuntu OS is more usable, loved it though. Definitely recommend the HTC One though!

      • gmaninvan

        Not a stock android fan? I tried out Ubuntu OS and it is nice but I prefer the customization of android.

    • IHATEHIPSTERSSS

      If they’re going to have on screen buttons the phone should have zero chin.

      • gmaninvan

        Ideally yes but that isn’t really possible. I do think they should work on making the chins significantly smaller but they still need somewhat of a chin to house the microphone and in the case of many phones, the antenna.

      • IHATEHIPSTERSSS

        True.

      • 2dott0

        Without a chin, how do you hold the phone in landscape? Doable? Yes. Practical? No.

    • Neel Gupta

      No matter what, I do NOT want to see a Sony Nexus
      Lookup:
      1) PS3 Linux fiasco
      2) Sony Malware Scandal
      …If you still trust sony, something is wrong with you.

      • gmaninvan

        You have to be kidding me right?

        1. Dropping support for a third party OS on a platform it was never intended for hardly makes them untrustworthy. Why not just buy a cheap HTPC and make a Linux box out of that?

        2. So you are going to tell me that, because one individual working at one supplier of Sony BMG decided to load malware on shipped discs that makes the whole company unworthy of your money?

        You need to look past this to the big picture. Sony has arguably been the single best OEM in the last few years with respect to the developer community. Even going as far as to gift devices to the Cyanogenmod team and having the Xperia S in the official AOSP tree for some time.

        With respect to the device:

        1. The hardware of the Xperia Z is FINALLY top notch. Previous models have been lackluster.

        2. Sony is the worlds premiere OEM of camera modules for the mobile industry. As a result, Xperia devices typically have excellent cameras.

        4. The thing is water proof with full IP57 certification for up to 1m! That is awesome. You will see that on numerous upcoming devices but this is truly innovative to be the first manufacturer to offer this on a smartphone.

      • Neel Gupta

        1) Sony advertised the Playstation system as a Linux friendly-device !

        2) SONY BMG THEMSELVES LOADED THE VIRUS TO HIJACK CUSTOMER CD DRIVES!!!

        3) you want durability? buy Panasonic rugged smartphones ! 10x better durability than sony phones.

      • gmaninvan

        1. I don’t ever remember Sony “advertising” it as a linux friendly device. It was more a we won’t stop you sort of deal.

        2. OK you are right on this. They screwed up trying to stop piracy. The whole recording industry is shady if you ask me.

        3. No thanks, I would rather not walk around with a brick in my pocket.

  • http://www.facebook.com/unclehefta James Abdul-Hefta Sutherland

    Would love to see a HTC Nexus 5. The HTC One is an amazing device.

    • vperl

      Had my my EVO 4G since launch day three years ago, works great, and never any problemsm. iSheep are nasty bunch of bleaters.

  • Fidel Argomaniz

    I want the nexus 5 to look like this http://www.androidpit.de/nexus-5-mockup-design

    • http://www.androidcommunity.com Cory Gunther

      holy wow.. thanks for sharing

    • gmaninvan

      Wow! That is an excellent concept. Very Motorolaish with the kevlar look. I think that would do really well. I can’t honestly say a single thing I don’t like about it. I also think that google should switch the nav bar icons to blue from white as shown to match the status bar.

  • http://picasaweb.google.com/JTHolroyd/TileStoneWork JessSayin

    Captain Picard says, “Make it so!”

  • Magnus100

    Motorola should make it.

  • http://twitter.com/Kabirjohnson Kabirjohnson

    Wishful thinking buddy. Nice specs too.

  • tonkotsu

    will it also have poor battery life like every htc phone?

  • Alfredo Pérez Grovas

    Make it with 64 gbytes of memory and I am in. I loved my Nexus one and absolutely HATE the finish on my Galaxy Nexus. I would LOOOOOOVE seeing Google go back to HTC for the Nexus line.

  • Stocklone

    I am still using my Nexus One as my alarm clock. Great phone. Still looks good. Still works good. And now I want an HTC Nexus 5. Man that would be sweet.

  • fake_troll

    I have an htc desire and that is probably my last htc smartphone that I will ever own . Htc got me to buy the product but left users like me in the wild in terms of updates. I truly believe that is the reason most previous owners of an HTC Desire will never buy another htc device ever again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/brachypelma.smith Brachypelma Smith

    I miss the track ball……….

    • http://www.androidcommunity.com Cory Gunther

      dude right.. and the multiple colors back in the CM… um.. CM6 days

    • gmaninvan

      See this I never liked. Didn’t really see the point of it to be honest. I think the reviewers were right in saying that this was a compensation for, at the time, androids poor text selection implementation.

  • http://blog.patentology.com.au/ Mark Summerfield

    Not so sure about HTC any more. Currently travelling with one (older) Samsung device, and new HTC One. Guess which one of them works effortlessly everywhere (pop in a local prepaid SIM and go), and which one only worked in Taiwan (and that after considerable in-store assistance)?

    I realise that this is probably carriers’ issue as much as HTC’s, but that’s because there are fewer HTC devices around these days, making them a lower support priority. In Japan I got “we have had reports…” blah, blah, blah, “…suggest you use a different device.”

    Yes – Samsung as portable hot-spot, and HTC on Wi-Fi! Still, $40 down the drain on a useless micro-SIM.

    Google and HTC would need to make sure they have this covered.

    • gmaninvan

      GSM is an international standard and, provided they support the same bands, it shouldn’t be a difference. Is one carrier locked by chance?

      • http://blog.patentology.com.au/ Mark Summerfield

        Carrier locking is not the problem, nor is GSM, nor frequency bands. It’s a mobile data issue: something to do with 3G/WCDMA and/or LTE compatibility. Of course these are supposed to be global standards, but they are constantly evolving, and network/device issues can and do occur.

      • gmaninvan

        That is so strange. I have never had that issue with any device. Did you check your apn settings? If the phone supports the band that carrier runs on it should work. That is why standards are in place.

  • Bobby Wright

    Cory Gunther your Nexus 5 phone with the specs you listed would cost like $600+. LG is prob willing to take a hit on the hardware costs as HTC cant really afford to. Google wants to make the best phone for the best price and I don’t think HTC fits into that plan.
    Your HTC Nexus 5 would be killer though..

    • http://www.androidcommunity.com Cory Gunther

      Well. if the N4 was $200 to build, surely they can squeeze the HTC Nexus 5 for $349 haha.

      dreaming

  • tuna_

    No thanks. Give me Samsung or LG.

  • Guest

    Nexus 3

  • vperl

    Unless the NEXUS 5 is CDMA compatible, go fish.

    • http://www.androidcommunity.com Cory Gunther

      Truth right here!

  • http://www.facebook.com/tcostasouza Thiago Souza

    +10000000

  • 2 Men-E

    No thanks. I can go with a Round 2 for LG to design the Nexus 5, or I can even go with a Motorola Nexus design, because it all started with Motorola as far as Android goes…a “Nexus” device of all devices. The thing with HTC that concerns me is that [possibly rumored] issue of certain design suppliers to the company (for the HTC One) have started to consider HTC no longer a “tier one” company–making the manufacturing of even the HTC One slower in process [AS the release date approaches, and is potentially pushed back].

    • gmaninvan

      Yes and no. Motorola and the droid were the first to bring android to the mainstream but the HTC Hero so it technically started with them. I read the same article with respect to the suppliers but I don’t think that would affect a Nexus device as much since suppliers would be aware of the demand of the last Nexus. It would bump them up the priority list.

  • Addymore

    I will go for it too….!!!!Nex 5 from HTC and Google!!!The phone would be a legend….for sure……..

  • http://www.facebook.com/ruel.celerio.9 Ruel Celerio

    If only for the reason of helping HTC rise from its struggle then I CONCUR. But only if they’ll make it with 64GB, battery of at least 3000 mAh and the premium look and feel of HTC One.

  • Phone_Junkie

    On several occasions I’ve almost pulled the trigger on a DNA for use on AT&T. The battery and lack of an external storage slot have kept me from doing so. Why wouldn’t they include a card slot like the Butterfly has? 16GB is sufficient for everyday use but there may be times when it is just not sufficient. It is hard for me to believe, but I have not tried a N4 either.

  • pilode

    Nexus One owner here (and former HTC Hero and current SGS3 Exynos owner): what’s to hold HTC from winning “us” back with a niche, plain-Jane KLP HTC (a One—or heck, a re-purposed One X+ even), to demonstrate that HTC can catch up with Google’s “official” Nexus updates in timely manner if it so chooses (and spare us from Sense in the process)?

  • vikas

    hov d hell this is related to nexus..wtf

  • http://www.facebook.com/balvinder.makkar.7 Balvinder Makkar

    if you see her tell her she owe me lot of money:P

  • dandroid13

    Let them struggle and disappear, Google shouldn’t spend money on a falling company…

  • Shane

    beats audio…why?

  • Roberto Dominguez

    I was thinking the same thing the other day, but why a 5 inch screen? I was thinking it can have a 4.7 inch 1080p screen just like the HTC One, which is the same size as the Nexus 4. And maybe SLCD4 like you suggested.

  • Ryuuie

    Except HTC is known for:

    -The worst battery life in all of their phones (DNA, EVO, EVO 3D, EVO LTE, Thunderbolt to name a few)

    -They’ve been losing money for quite a while now…they may sell phones, but they’re pretty much the bottom of the barrel when it comes to profits…seriously, do some research on this, they’re really in the red

    -Promised not to flood the market with more useless phones…then turned right around and made the HTC One V, One S, One S Asian Version, One XL, One SV, One VX, One J (Japanese One S), One X, One X+, EVO 4G LTE (Sprint version of the One X), HTC Butterfly, AND the HTC Droid DNA.

    All of the phones I mentions were made in the year 2012. That is TWELVE phones in the span of TWELVE months.

    Now, they have the “HTC One”.

    Meanwhile, Samsung…well, Samsung is just as bad but no where NEAR as bad with all their phones last year as HTC. HTC is part of the reason why Android has such bad hardware fragmentation.

    -HTC doesn’t understand WHY consumers are sick of them and WHY they’re losing money.

    Cory, you seem like a pretty cool guy but uh…why the hell would you want this for Google’s next phone? LG may be weird with the glass front/back and badly calibrated screen colors for the Nexus 4 and Optimus G, but they’re not HTC and that’s really saying something.

    So yeah, HTC Nexus 5 sounds nice, probably would look nice on paper…but we all know they would NEVER use such a large battery (ever). We all know the phone would be eclipsed by something HTC released 3 months later..then 3 more months…then 3 more…then 3 more.

    HTC just doesn’t get it. We’d be better off with LG again.

    • Ryuuie

      Also, Beats is, quite honestly, shit. It’s just crappy sound made popular by Dr. Dre. We don’t need that in a Nexus either.

      Not to mention I believe it’d be something Google would need to give more money for (it’s Dr. Dre…you really think he’d let Google stick it in AOSP for free?). They’re not really about that.

  • Nexus

    Sorry bro. No more HTC for me — I’ve owned the Nexus One (and every Nexus series since then), and I swore that I will never buy an HTC again. If they go to HTC again, I won’t stay with Android. Personally, I hope they keep the Nexus 5 with LG, or even better, go with Motorola

  • Mercedes-Heinz

    I’m gonna to disappoint everybody who expects NEXUS 5 with the specs above by HTC.

    NEXUS is a lineup of PURE Android…

    …AFFORDABLE devices…
    =no super specs from here.

    …manufactured by companies (after NEXUS One) which CAN (technically/financially, due to enormous scale and the fact that they manufacture almost all smartphone parts) manufacture it without losses and give dev-like PURE Android devices to Google, developers and enthusiasts…
    =no HTC from here.

    …which WILL NOT create pure Android competition for their own TOP skin-covered devices…
    =no specs that can beat TOP Android devices from here.

    =======================

    HTC makes ugly phones.
    I don’t hate them. I almost loved 1 of their phone some time ago, honestly.

    DROID DNA is one of the ugliest among them, you can’t call its top VIEW or its bulky ugly case a design at all, it’s a TRASH for $200.

    HTC one is an AWFULLY THICK =9.4mm= aluminum PILLOW full of annoying design mistakes.

    ALUMINUM doesn’t make it PREMIUM, it’s a right choice of material and a pretty junk design.

    Just look at One carefully and try to find LOGIC in almost all HTC’s “engineering” DECISIONS.

    Some design details in HTC One are simply AWFUL for a company which want to back in black and make $700 smartphones.

    ========================

    1) you want PURE Android because you want instant updates from Google.

    * but Android skins are the main source of differentiation for Android vendors that have NO real ideas and GUTS to really INNOVATE.

    2) you want super specs from an affordable smartphone

    * but smartphones are BUSINESS, only idiots will sell $300-worth smartphones (specs above) for $399 off-contract.

    3) you want HTC, but HCT is desperately trying to survive with One, they can’t afford affordable NEXUS 5.

    4) you want HTC design, but HTC design is nothing besides aluminum, look at One/DNA “designs” again CAREFULLY;)

    *****************

    So,
    WOW specs=NO $399 or even $499 price tag.

    $399 or $499 price tag = NO HTC.

    ****************

    WOW design+WOW specs+pure Google =?

    X.

  • David

    I’d love to see an htc nexus. htc make great phones but I don’t like Sense, much prefer stock Android. A nexus based on the htc One would be a marriage made in heaven.

  • n1

    yeah! loving my nexus one and still holding on to it until the next htc nexus.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005543735357 Joe Blogs

    Nexus is the worst Android phone ever Made.

  • Indydi

    You want all that for the cost of the N4? Dream on!

  • Neel Gupta

    Still using my HTC Nexus One as my primary phone, along with Galaxy Nexus.

    My Nexus 7 got white screen, and due to non-removable battery, I had to send it back to Google.

    • gmaninvan

      You didn’t need to do that. The back cover on the Nexus 7 actually does come off quite easily. You could have also tried a hard reset by holding the power and volume up/down at the same time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/craigdeegan Craig Deegan

    HTC Certainly make the best hardware, the “ONE” is sublime as is the DNA so yes, please Google, give the “5″ to HTC

  • Daniel Rogers

    This is the only reason why I would buy another HTC phone again. HTC has great hardware, but Sense is just awful (visually and fucntionally IMO). A HTC nexus would be easy to root, and you wouldn’t have to wait for months for software updates (my expierence with HTC rezound).

  • alien45

    What about a micro sd card? 32gb ain’t enough! Google gotta listen!!!! :-(

  • http://www.socialsecurityfraudprotection.com/ Bernie

    Nexus 4 showed that demand for a google phone is huge. HTC one showed that HTC cannot meet demand well. This would not be a good combination. Dear google – don’t bother, every day you can’t meet demand, someone else buys a iPhone.