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1. Yesssss!
   
   I don't know why I bothered accepting that update without checking the forums first, but now I'm saved!    by divestoclimb
   
2. Works great too! Takes very little time. Lots of help out there too if you get stuck. I recommend upgrading to JC modded rc30 v 1.3 as well. This will get you started:
   
   
   http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443797    by birdman81484
   
3. I did it last night, and as I said in another post, it practically does itself. No slaving needed. My mom could have done it.
   
   Upgrading to the JF R30 v. 1.3 was a liiiittle tougher, but not much.    by DesignDawg
   
4. spent from 1130 pm to 530 am playing with my g1 after i got root access    by warzchit
   
5. The good thing about the JF1.3 RC30 is that it is built with a fix to prevent any applications from accessing su without your knowledge.    by outsider
   
6. Wow. There's a uk version too.
   
   I already had 29 going, but this basically allows ANYONE who wants root to have it. And it's got a competency threshold so that only those who can at least follow the flashing instructions will have it...
   
   Jesus Freke's 1.3 is out btw.
   
   W    by VValdo
   
7. Would be nice to have a stickie about how to do this and a faq.    by averad
   
8. To the casual user, what are the benefits of having root on your G1? I realize there's much more you can do, but, is there anything that makes it 100% worth it for every G1 user to have root?    by Jesse
   
9. Some things you can do with root:
   
   • Delete or replace official Google applications you don't want (e.g., lose Amazon stuff, update browser, use K9 instead of Mail, etc.)
   • Customize UI by adding behavior (auto-rotate to the browser, for example) or radical new themes (already in development) to enhance the look and feel of your phone
   • Tweak Android settings to let you do things you would otherwise not be able to do (such as get high-quality YouTube... or do SIP/iax2 VOIP... over your g3 connection)
   • Access parts of the phone (dialer, microphone, gtalk service, etc.) in ways that are either restricted or there is no API for yet to enhance phone's functionality.
   • Add full support for apps inside Android written in other languages besides Android's Java-like VM (ie, Flash, Mono, Python, C, etc.)
   • Install non-official variants of Android such as the new Cupcake release
   • Support non-official capabilities of the G1 (multi-touch? Voice distorter? etc.)
   • Add more unix tools (such as full busybox prompt), windowing systems (such as X11) or unix programs programs, potentially adding tens of thousands of new applications.
   • Replace OS entirely with Debian or something else.
   • Overclock (?) or otherwise alter default behavior at CPU level
   • Add enhanced "full" backup & recovery of the entire phone
   etc. etc.
   
   W    by VValdo
   
10. Quote:

    Originally Posted by VValdo Some things you can do with root: Delete or replace official Google applications you don't want (e.g., lose Amazon stuff, update browser, use K9 instead of Mail, etc.) Customize UI by adding behavior (auto-rotate to the browser, for example) or radical new themes (already in development) to enhance the look and feel of your phone Tweak Android settings to let you do things you would otherwise not be able to do (such as get high-quality YouTube... or do SIP/iax2 VOIP... over your g3 connection) Access parts of the phone (dialer, microphone, gtalk service, etc.) in ways that are either restricted or there is no API for yet to enhance phone's functionality. Add full support for apps inside Android written in other languages besides Android's Java-like VM (ie, Flash, Mono, Python, C, etc.) Install non-official variants of Android such as the new Cupcake release Support non-official capabilities of the G1 (multi-touch? Voice distorter? etc.) Add more unix tools (such as full busybox prompt), windowing systems (such as X11) or unix programs programs, potentially adding tens of thousands of new applications. Replace OS entirely with Debian or something else. Overclock (?) or otherwise alter default behavior at CPU level Add enhanced "full" backup & recovery of the entire phone etc. etc. W

    Exactly. Now we need tutorials for all these things in one organized place.....    by birdman81484
    
11. Quote:

    Originally Posted by VValdo Some things you can do with root: Delete or replace official Google applications you don't want (e.g., lose Amazon stuff, update browser, use K9 instead of Mail, etc.) Customize UI by adding behavior (auto-rotate to the browser, for example) or radical new themes (already in development) to enhance the look and feel of your phone Tweak Android settings to let you do things you would otherwise not be able to do (such as get high-quality YouTube... or do SIP/iax2 VOIP... over your g3 connection) Access parts of the phone (dialer, microphone, gtalk service, etc.) in ways that are either restricted or there is no API for yet to enhance phone's functionality. Add full support for apps inside Android written in other languages besides Android's Java-like VM (ie, Flash, Mono, Python, C, etc.) Install non-official variants of Android such as the new Cupcake release Support non-official capabilities of the G1 (multi-touch? Voice distorter? etc.) Add more unix tools (such as full busybox prompt), windowing systems (such as X11) or unix programs programs, potentially adding tens of thousands of new applications. Replace OS entirely with Debian or something else. Overclock (?) or otherwise alter default behavior at CPU level Add enhanced "full" backup & recovery of the entire phone etc. etc. W

    Is there a guide to adding all these features after rooting your device? I've found walkthroughs for rooting and it seems straightforward enough, but for newbies like me I have no idea how to go about adding these features after rooting.    by Kha_
    
12. It's Linux. To teach everything you could do with root would be to try to type out every possible Linux command and argument for people to try to peck out verbatim.    by DesignDawg
    
13. Once you do that, you can't get the OTA updates anymore, right?
    
    If you have the "legit" developer phone, can you do OTA updates without losing root?
    
    If you go the root route (sorry, couldn't resist) and you want to go back to "legit" updates (losing root), is that possible?    by mlevin
    
14. Quote:

    Originally Posted by mlevin Once you do that, you can't get the OTA updates anymore, right? If you have the "legit" developer phone, can you do OTA updates without losing root? If you go the root route (sorry, couldn't resist) and you want to go back to "legit" updates (losing root), is that possible?

    Welll.... If you go back to RC29, you'll have root, but it'll start bugging you about RC30 soon, which will take it right back away. What going back to RC 29 will allow you to do is get root and use it to go to MODIFIED RC30. Once you've done this, you won't receive OTAs anymore. You'll have to do them manually. You will either be able to put the OTA on there manually when it comes out, and lose root again, or wait until it gets modified, so you can preserve root and get the new features.
    
    OR... You can put the engineering bootloader on there, and it won't really matter if you have root or not when it comes to updates, because you'll ALWAYS be able to get it back, no matter what, because you can flash anything you want, whether you have root or not.
    
    Confusing?    by DesignDawg
    
15. Quote:

    Originally Posted by DesignDawg Welll.... If you go back to RC29, you'll have root, but it'll start bugging you about RC30 soon, which will take it right back away. What going back to RC 29 will allow you to do is get root and use it to go to MODIFIED RC30. Once you've done this, you won't receive OTAs anymore. You'll have to do them manually. You will either be able to put the OTA on there manually when it comes out, and lose root again, or wait until it gets modified, so you can preserve root and get the new features. OR... You can put the engineering bootloader on there, and it won't really matter if you have root or not when it comes to updates, because you'll ALWAYS be able to get it back, no matter what, because you can flash anything you want, whether you have root or not. Confusing?

    
    .....ponders....    by goodfellabk718
    
16. What exactly can I do with root access? I'm still trying to figure this out.    by Reeg
    
17. Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reeg What exactly can I do with root access? I'm still trying to figure this out.

    
    
    
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VValdo Some things you can do with root: Delete or replace official Google applications you don't want (e.g., lose Amazon stuff, update browser, use K9 instead of Mail, etc.) Customize UI by adding behavior (auto-rotate to the browser, for example) or radical new themes (already in development) to enhance the look and feel of your phone Tweak Android settings to let you do things you would otherwise not be able to do (such as get high-quality YouTube... or do SIP/iax2 VOIP... over your g3 connection) Access parts of the phone (dialer, microphone, gtalk service, etc.) in ways that are either restricted or there is no API for yet to enhance phone's functionality. Add full support for apps inside Android written in other languages besides Android's Java-like VM (ie, Flash, Mono, Python, C, etc.) Install non-official variants of Android such as the new Cupcake release Support non-official capabilities of the G1 (multi-touch? Voice distorter? etc.) Add more unix tools (such as full busybox prompt), windowing systems (such as X11) or unix programs programs, potentially adding tens of thousands of new applications. Replace OS entirely with Debian or something else. Overclock (?) or otherwise alter default behavior at CPU level Add enhanced "full" backup & recovery of the entire phone etc. etc. W

    
    
    
    If you don't know what root is, or what you can do with it, you don't need it.    by Queue29
    
18. Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kha_ Is there a guide to adding all these features after rooting your device? I've found walkthroughs for rooting and it seems straightforward enough, but for newbies like me I have no idea how to go about adding these features after rooting.

    Some of these features aren't "realized" yet. Root only makes them possible, but since root is only now available for many people, there hasn't been a lot of time to mess with it.
    
    That said, already there are theming HOW-TOs and instructions for installing cupcake, as well as how to tether (which is basically using your phone as a modem to "pass through" your phone's internet to a laptop), turn on auto-rotate, prevent T-Mobile from auto-"upgrading" the phone, install Debian Linux, install and run apps off your SD-Card, etc.
    
    Now that root is available to many more people, I expect to see more sophisticated and user-friendly applications, modifications, etc. to appear.
    
    W    by VValdo
    
19. Quote:

    Originally Posted by VValdo Some of these features aren't "realized" yet. Root only makes them possible, but since root is only now available for many people, there hasn't been a lot of time to mess with it. That said, already there are theming HOW-TOs and instructions for installing cupcake, as well as how to tether (which is basically using your phone as a modem to "pass through" your phone's internet to a laptop), turn on auto-rotate, prevent T-Mobile from auto-"upgrading" the phone, install Debian Linux, install and run apps off your SD-Card, etc. Now that root is available to many more people, I expect to see more sophisticated and user-friendly applications, modifications, etc. to appear. W

    In regards to the huge bold link above: With JC rc30 v1.3 that link is not necessary to follow. Right?    by birdman81484
    
20. Quote:

    Originally Posted by VValdo Some of these features aren't "realized" yet. Root only makes them possible, but since root is only now available for many people, there hasn't been a lot of time to mess with it. That said, already there are theming HOW-TOs and instructions for installing cupcake, as well as how to tether (which is basically using your phone as a modem to "pass through" your phone's internet to a laptop), turn on auto-rotate, prevent T-Mobile from auto-"upgrading" the phone, install Debian Linux, install and run apps off your SD-Card, etc. Now that root is available to many more people, I expect to see more sophisticated and user-friendly applications, modifications, etc. to appear. W

    where's the link for moving caches to the sdcard? seriously though where is it, that and that alone may make me do this...    by constellanation
    
21. Here's a thread on moving the caches to the sdcard:
    http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f...g-cache-10201/    by danguyf
    
22. thanks dan and waldo! loads o info in those two posts    by constellanation
    
23. Quote:

    Originally Posted by VValdo Delete or replace official Google applications you don't want (e.g., lose Amazon stuff, update browser, use K9 instead of Mail, etc.)

    Can I just go in and delete packages, like the Amazon MP3 one? What about myFaves?    by danguyf
    
24. I think many are missing the point. Root access gives developers more options in creating apps. Thus if you have root access, you can install powerful apps that you wouldn't be able to otherwise. But unless you know how to write the code yourself, you gotta wait for someone else to actually develop the new apps.    by android_futurist
    
25. Does anyone with root access have the T-Mobile MyFaves app they can upload somewhere? I have a dev G1 (an actual one) with T-Mobile and it would be nice to have this app.    by savant
    
26. I've mirrored these 2 files just incase people can't get them from megaupload;
    
    RC29 (for US): http://trackmygps.co.uk/files/US-RC29.zip
    RC7 (for UK): http://trackmygps.co.uk/files/UK-RC7.zip    by foxdie
    
27. Quote:

    Originally Posted by foxdie I've mirrored these 2 files just incase people can't get them from megaupload; RC29 (for US): http://trackmygps.co.uk/files/US-RC29.zip RC7 (for UK): http://trackmygps.co.uk/files/UK-RC7.zip

    
    Thank you, the link I got from XDA is slow as hell! Thanks    by XDViPeR
    
28. Quote:

    Originally Posted by VValdo Some things you can do with root: Delete or replace official Google applications you don't want (e.g., lose Amazon stuff, update browser, use K9 instead of Mail, etc.) Customize UI by adding behavior (auto-rotate to the browser, for example) or radical new themes (already in development) to enhance the look and feel of your phone Tweak Android settings to let you do things you would otherwise not be able to do (such as get high-quality YouTube... or do SIP/iax2 VOIP... over your g3 connection) Access parts of the phone (dialer, microphone, gtalk service, etc.) in ways that are either restricted or there is no API for yet to enhance phone's functionality. Add full support for apps inside Android written in other languages besides Android's Java-like VM (ie, Flash, Mono, Python, C, etc.) Install non-official variants of Android such as the new Cupcake release Support non-official capabilities of the G1 (multi-touch? Voice distorter? etc.) Add more unix tools (such as full busybox prompt), windowing systems (such as X11) or unix programs programs, potentially adding tens of thousands of new applications. Replace OS entirely with Debian or something else. Overclock (?) or otherwise alter default behavior at CPU level Add enhanced "full" backup & recovery of the entire phone etc. etc. W

    
    
    You forgot - 'brick' your G1.    by juice
    
29. Wow, I've done it, RIght now I'm installing RC30 as we speak. Freedom is a good thing!
    
    
    ok ok, now i've got root, what do i do with it?
    
    Juice, BRICK your G1?..... Nahhhh I'm a wreckless person.... and my phone just rebooted, installed RC30 using test keys and I'm good.    by XDViPeR
    
30. good info about the benefits of rooting the g1    by kaysesoze
    
31. Quote:

    Originally Posted by XDViPeR Juice, BRICK your G1?..... Nahhhh I'm a wreckless person.... and my phone just rebooted, installed RC30 using test keys and I'm good.

    Cool.
    Now use your G1 to google sarcasm.    by juice
    
32. did this last night and upgraded to mod RC30 JF and it was simple. thanks for keeping up with the news!    by z3r0kiLL
    
33. Quote:

    Originally Posted by XDViPeR ok ok, now i've got root, what do i do with it?

    The biggest advantage for me rooting the G1 now I think, is for bluetooth tethering. Other than that, I'm not sure why else I would need to root(yet)...    by ultra spikey
    
34. Hi, Guys
    
    Just wanted to add my query to this post. I purchased a U.S version of the T-Mobile G1 and have been using it in the UK on T-Mobile.
    
    There are a few differences between the UK AND U.S, but the one I am more interested in is an issue where Sending/Receiving MMS doesn't work. I was told this is because the phone is from the U.S.
    
    Now I was wondering if it would be possible to flash the phone I have which is currently using RC30 with the U.K modded firmware? Help advise would be great!
    
    Thanks    by donsingh2k
    
35. Quote:

    Originally Posted by donsingh2k Hi, Guys Just wanted to add my query to this post. I purchased a U.S version of the T-Mobile G1 and have been using it in the UK on T-Mobile. There are a few differences between the UK AND U.S, but the one I am more interested in is an issue where Sending/Receiving MMS doesn't work. I was told this is because the phone is from the U.S. Now I was wondering if it would be possible to flash the phone I have which is currently using RC30 with the U.K modded firmware? Help advise would be great! Thanks

    Yup, downgrade to rc29 then upgrade to the modded UK rc8
    
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by birdman81484 XDA came up with this method. It follows one should use XDA to revert back to rc29 and root it. Then proceed to upgrade to a modded rc30 like JF rc30 v1.3. These step by step directions are from XDA. If you follow them exactly you will have NO problem rooting your phone. It is rather simple actually. I will make one edit to this post to make it even easier. I have no experience using linux what so ever. If you can read you can do this. Its worth it guys who knows how crazy google might go at disallowing this in the future. Could take a year to get root access back if they manage to take it awyay again. I did it. Im a high functioning retard and i got it on my first try! here is the link as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/newr...eply&p=2882509 [quote =usmc2k;2882509]I would like to give thanks to JesusFreke who helped me to understand this process !!!! Please show him some love and make good gestures for his work�.. Also to all the other people and sites who made this possible including Koush !!! I take no credit for this just posting it to help people like me, who dont know to much about this. First�. You need to install a google android usb driver so you can use the adb program. (It lets you push and pull files to/from the phone, and you can open up a shell with it to). Download the driver file (http://dl.google.com/android/android_usb_windows.zip) and unzip it to the desktop. On ur G1� Go menu > Settings > Applications > Development then enable the USB debugging button. Then connect your Android device via USB. When the Found New Hardware Wizard appears, you'll be asked if you'd like Windows Update to search for software, select No, not this time and click Next. Select Install from a list or specified location and click Next. Select Search for the best driver in these locations. Browse and select the unzipped file (android usb windows.zip). Click Finish. Second�. Setting up the SDK Go to http://code.google.com/android/download_list.html and download the SDK Unzip the file to the desktop and rename the folder to sdk Open your command prompt (Windows Key and R) Type �cmd� (Without the quotations) Then "cd desktop" Then �cd sdk� Next �cd tools� Now type �adb devices After that it should say some thing like� List of devices attached HT845GZ21370 Device. If u see this abd sees your device. Third�. Writing JesusFreke�s Recovery image Download the zip file from this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443041) Unzip the files to the SDK tools folder Now, in the command window, type "adb push recovery_testkeys.img /data/local/recovery.img" (This will copy the recovery image files to the phone) Fourth�. Get Root working on ur G1 Download the Android Telnet Client from the Market or get it here� http://www.koushikdutta.com/2008/11/...et-client.html Turn on your phone's WiFi. This gives your phone an IP you can reach it at. Restart your phone EDIT by birdman(compliments of rynosaur)::Once restarted go to your programs you will notice "Telnet" is now one of your programs. Open Telnet and hit the "Connect to Server Button" (You now have root!) EDIT by birdman: (If this does not work open "Terminal Emulator" application which you now also have and type "su") (You now have root!) Now put in this command�. �mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system� Then �cd /system� Then �cat /data/local/recovery.img > recovery.img� Finally �flash_image recovery recovery.img� (Your Recovery Image is now writen) *To make sure your Recovery Image was written�. Reboot your phone in Recovery mode and press Alt+L. At the top it should say "using test keys" If so its written. Go ahead and Reboot your phone by pressing the Home and Back buttons.* Fifth�Apply JesusFreke�s modified RC30 Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466174 and Download the ZIP donsingh2k when you go here chooses the rc8 file. Now once the ZIP is downloaded rename it to �UPDATE� Put it on the storage card Last but not least Power off your G1 and Power it on by pressing the home key and power key Press Alt+L (to turn on text) Press Alt+S (to update) And Bam you have yourself a modded RC30 G1 !!!!!!!!

    [/QUOTE]    by birdman81484
    
36. Thanks for your reply birdman81484, really appreciate the instructions. I'll have a go at it later on tonight.
    
    Cheers    by donsingh2k
    
37. awwww CRAP...i think I put the friggin UK version on by going on these steps...is there a way I can revert this or does it matter...O dang it.    by blackbox
    
38. need help... I cannot get the adb shell to work.. "adb push recovery_testkeys.img /data/local/recovery.img" did all possible.. also do it need to have the adb shell working first before telnet.. telnet does not connect..getting ip error..also tried terminal emulator su command.. getting permission denied.. wifi is enable.. anyone suggestions? thanx    by taurus1205