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Mozilla’s mobile browser Fennec won’t be coming to Android any time soon

10 November 2008 by Staff Editor


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Mozilla’s mobile browser, Fennec, is currently in the alpha testing stages. This Browser will no doubt be one of the leading mobile browsers out there. One question that has been running through everyone’s mind is, will it eventually come to Android?

Fennec is said to be showing competitive JavaScript performance with Android and mobile Safari JavaScript, which also means in speed. There are also rumors that Fennec will eventually have voice control.  Finally the question we have all been asking for a while now, will Fennec ever be on the Android platform?

Mozilla’s Jay Sullivan said it will not be on Android, at least not until Google accepts programs that are not written in Java for Android. Android does not support applications that run directly on the operating system itself without the need to be written in Java.  Sullivan says that Android is “interesting for us. We’ll have to see which direction Google goes with that.” We are a bit upset that there will be no Mobile version of Firefox on Android, at least in the foreseeable future. We want to know how you guys feel about it. Is Fennec that important to you?

[Via ABCNews]

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  1. That sucks majorly. Not that I hate the built-in browser... But I just hate that Android isn't playing nice.

    Not that it's really that they've done anything wrong, either... It's just their MO to want things to be their way - even if it is "open source".
  2. They should just release it outside of the marketplace, in my opinion. Nothing's stopping them as far as I know.
  3. Pretty upsetting, already sad enough that theres no multi-touch. And the fact that when you try to view some websites it cuts off some images or doesn't scroll down all the way, misses some text & important stuff to view on the page. Also the default web browser isn't even google's "chrome" browser which i thought would of been on the G1 but i've always liked mozilla and hoped they'd make a leet web mobile brower. I'm a bit sad, i'd like to see some new stuff out there. I want to see what people can bring to the table. Hopefully in the future it'll come about.
  4. lol honestly... with open source.. does it matter whether or not Google likes it or not?

    With open source even Mozilla can make an app for the android platform... and charge maybe something or even nothing at all... and google can't stop them...

    the problem here really is Frennac doesn't want to make a app that uses java... like everyone else... they prefer to make it the way they want to on Android vs to make the app the way Android needs them to make it...

    Why does it matter if it's in Java or not? Maybe if they have a proprietary software design and don't feel like developing the software to directly work on Android... well ya I can understand... but that's just being annoying...

    If Mozilla knows there will be a lot of Android based phones out in the market.. they are better off making an app for Android like everyone else to get in on new platform available... rather than haggling and discrediting Google's intentions...
  5. Im also not to happy to know that firefox won't be making its way to the android os. Oh well. We still have other web broswer's to choose from, Like Opera and Skyfire let's hope one of thoes mobile broswers make there way to the android. Keep your fingers crossed that Skyfire makes it's way to the android before any other browser does. I can deal without Firefox. I've beta tested skyfire on my T-Mobile dash that runs the windows os and i loved everything about skyfire.
  6. Chrome isn't needed for amdroid because the built in browser uses the same engine as Chrome. It would be redundant
  7. I want mozilla!!!!!
  8. The G1's built in browser is lacking allot and the functionality is not the best.

    The fact is that the android platform market is so small and not allot of developers want to take the time and develop an application and not expose it as much as they can.

    Android just needs to put it its time and soon enough we will see all the developers want to make applications for android.
  9. Are you sure you can create a program without Java as part of it? The Java layer is the sandbox they are using for security and system requirements- am I wrong?

    The author of Smartgear on the WM also says that you must adhere to the Java layer or the program will not work in the current OS. That is why we will not see MAME, Smartgear or any other emu on the G1 anytiime soon.

    Unless the OS is broken, and no company is going to do that.
  10. I think some of you are misinterpreting what the Mozilla team is saying. They have written the Mobile browser in a programming language that the Android SDK cannot compile yet. As of right now, the compiler can only compile code written Java. If someone writes a compiler to compile C/C++ code or whatever Mozilla team is programming in then they can put it on the Android platform.
  11. i have to say i am not pleased with the default browser. i'd really like to see fennec or firefox developed for the G1. i don't care enough to go into specifics but it would just be nice to have an option. it would be like if i had no choice but to use safari on my macbook.
  12. Am I the only one that thinks Google will have the browser polished well enough to the point where there's no need for another first generation browser (fennec) by the time it comes out?
  13. Bring firefox to android!!
  14. If Mozilla doesn't want to program in Java, they will miss out on BlackBerries and many other phones in the market.
  15. This makes me sad as well... bring us Firefox. Although Skyfire sounds interesting as well. My main issue with the built in browser is that the zooming is too much work and the overall experience is not as smooth as Safari as far as panning, scrolling, zooming, etc. I think the zooming can be improved, but not sure about the smoothness, as that seems to be a system-wide issue. Fingers crossed though!

    Oh, another issue is that you have to press menu to do anything! Why no icons at the bottom? Once again this is a system wide annoyance for me.
  16. Yes, Firefox is very important to me. I switched to T-Mobile from verizon under the impression that Andriod would be an open source distro. Open source to me reads: I can pick which bloody browser I wish to surf the net with! Jailbreak time...
  17. Surfing on the net with the G1 is kind of a joke. It's almost an emergency case for me. What my friends don't realize is it's not even Chrome...it's a crippled Chrome at that. I use the trackball to hit links rather than my stubby finger. Zipping around with the Zoom window just isn't as smooth as it could be. But even at that...I'd rather have some sort of Mozilla browser to have to be familiar with. Sure you can use the hard Back button, but what about a forward button?! Copy/Paste would be nice too.
  18. No offense to Mozilla -- I do all my designing on Firefox on my PC. But as far as the mobile world goes, a Webkit-based browser like that in Android of the iPhone is much better, anyway. Everything I've heard about Fennec says that it's slow and buggy. >_<
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by patientzero View Post
    No offense to Mozilla -- I do all my designing on Firefox on my PC. But as far as the mobile world goes, a Webkit-based browser like that in Android of the iPhone is much better, anyway. Everything I've heard about Fennec says that it's slow and buggy. >_<
    Boy, you really scooped this thread out of the grave and obscurity, and for no other reason that to say that you don't want to use the Mozilla web browser. It makes one wonder, what was the purpose of reviving a 7 month old thread just to say, "Pass!"

    P.S. The Android browser is ANYTHING but fast. I'll keep clinging tightly to my Opera Mini.
  20. i was wondering what the point of that was also.
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by JaceMan View Post
    Boy, you really scooped this thread out of the grave and obscurity, and for no other reason that to say that you don't want to use the Mozilla web browser. It makes one wonder, what was the purpose of reviving a 7 month old thread just to say, "Pass!"

    P.S. The Android browser is ANYTHING but fast. I'll keep clinging tightly to my Opera Mini.
    Necroposting at it's finest of course

    As far as the laggy/buggy fennec browser is concerned, it really sucks on my n810. Bug city, but it's far faster than the default Maemo browser. It'll be nice once it irons out all the bugs.
  22. Usually when someone revives a dead thread it's because they have a question pertaining to the subject. You don't see too many people search for "ford model t" just to post, "Never driven one!"
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by JaceMan View Post
    Boy, you really scooped this thread out of the grave and obscurity, and for no other reason that to say that you don't want to use the Mozilla web browser. It makes one wonder, what was the purpose of reviving a 7 month old thread just to say, "Pass!"

    P.S. The Android browser is ANYTHING but fast. I'll keep clinging tightly to my Opera Mini.
    Ha! You got me.

    For some reason this thread appeared on my "recently updated threads list" and I posted without ever reading the date. Must have been a glitch with the forum.
  24. Hey, everyone.

    Right now at Mozilla we're still in the early stages with looking at Fennec for Android. Since there's a new Native Development Kit that's available we've been looking into what it might take to bring up Fennec on Android. That work is going on right now.

    Right now I don't think we're even close to being in a position where we can say either way that we're going to support Android. It's too early. But I can say that it's high on our list for probable support given it's strategic value.

    The out of the box Android browser renders pages OK but it's not very inspiring in terms of its functionality or how it helps users. Simply put - it's an only OK web browser. There's a huge opportunity there to improve over it and if we do decide to go that path it will probably be a full Fennec release - add-ons, working weave integration, awsomebar, tile system, full Gecko support, etc.

    So stay tuned. When we start down that path we'll probably be transparent about it. (We're an open source project - it's not easy for us to keep secrets!)
  25. Help us, Obi Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope.
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