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1. Hmmm, how in the world would someone use 50GB a month? Tethering maybe?    by TheBlur
   
2. this news has been out now for almost a month...    by redsoxmg05
   
3. I think it's good. The data cap is high enough that people who go signifigantly over it deserve to have their data throddled. But T-Mobile needs to add a way to track your bandwith use.    by JRG1392
   
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   Originally Posted by redsoxmg05 this news has been out now for almost a month...

   Have anything constructive to say on your second post to the forums? Ill be waiting.    by Skatturbrain
   
5. Only having the Edge in my area I'm not over concerned with the 10gig month cap.    by kizer
   
6. Lol... I honestly think that AndroidCommunity should give up with their news blogs. Posting articles that have been discussed months ago isn't really "news".    by akarol
   
7. there should at least be a way to monitor your GB usage... I mean do they really want people to call in complaining? and hopefully they will reset their "throttle" back to normal per month.....
   
   if not that would stir up some problems...not for me, but they put the cap out there for somebody with 10GB+    by doubleokneegro
   
8. They do track bandwidth use, it appears on my monthly statement.
   
   I think 10 GB is too low, especially with new abilities to tether coming. I was hoping on using the 3G for home internet (it's about 850K at best according to my testing, which is what the standard for DSL was about 2 years ago...so not great but not bad).
   
   Anyway, I think TMo ought to rethink it's data plan pricing because their 3g network is far from robust...still needs a lot of work.    by fellonblackdays
   
9. Even with tethering 10GB of data is an insane amount of usage. I think Tmobile is being more than fair with this limit considering most other carriers stop you at 5GB    by So Real
   
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    Originally Posted by redsoxmg05 this news has been out now for almost a month...

    Thank you captain obvious. We have already reported this once, this post is just a reiteration and confirmation of that information.    by refused9150
    
11. Does that mean the unlimited plans will just change or will that only be for the sign ups?    by Ellusionz
    
12. Does this effect only new customers? If not, doesn't that mean they're changing the contract we originally signed up for?    by senor360
    
13. If T-mobile does this I will seriously leave tmobile and go to someone else, I am paying for unlimited usuage of the 3g network and that is what I should get. not a water down version of a already crappy 3g network.    by tbei25
    
14. I am a tech noob. what does this all mean? 10 gb cap?    by adalton1985
    
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    Originally Posted by tbei25 If T-mobile does this I will seriously leave tmobile and go to someone else, I am paying for unlimited usuage of the 3g network and that is what I should get. not a water down version of a already crappy 3g network.

    where are you going to go? tmobile's 10gb cap is greater than att, sprint, verizon, etc where the cap is 5gb.
    
    Unless you are d/ling tons of videos or using the connection for a server, 10gb is quite generous.    by dwang
    
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    Originally Posted by fellonblackdays They do track bandwidth use, it appears on my monthly statement. I think 10 GB is too low, especially with new abilities to tether coming. I was hoping on using the 3G for home internet (it's about 850K at best according to my testing, which is what the standard for DSL was about 2 years ago...so not great but not bad). Anyway, I think TMo ought to rethink it's data plan pricing because their 3g network is far from robust...still needs a lot of work.

    You're exactly the reason why they're doing this.    by GasBot
    
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    Originally Posted by GasBot You're exactly the reason why they're doing this.

    Right... I mean the tmobile data plan wasn't meant to replace your home broadband. Its meant to be used on the go.    by dwang
    
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    Originally Posted by adalton1985 I am a tech noob. what does this all mean? 10 gb cap?

    
    It means that even though you are paying for an unlimited plan, T-mobile reserves the right to cut you off once you reach 10GB.    by refused9150
    
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    Originally Posted by senor360 Does this effect only new customers? If not, doesn't that mean they're changing the contract we originally signed up for?

    From my understanding it is for new customers. If they changed this plan option for current customers that would be grounds for ending your contract without paying an early termination fee (ETF).    by refused9150
    
20. I can understand having a cap.
    
    But doubling the price of our internet plans? F that.    by tiki
    
21. "From my understanding it is for new customers. If they changed this plan option for current customers that would be grounds for ending your contract without paying an early termination fee (ETF)."
    
    Ah lets hope thats true. Because seriously, if they tried this, and some other company has come out with a better piece of hardware running Android- I'm OUT
    
    The great thing about Android is that one company is not going to have you by the nuts to get it. And every 6 months a better piece of hardware is gonna come out running it on various carriers. So its gonna create some nice healthy competition
    
    And I'm already wanting a hardware upgrade
    
    
    .    by tiki
    
22. I dono about you guys but i signed a 2 year contract for UNLIMITED internet use, if they change their contract on me like this and LIMIT me on something i signed a contract for UNLIMITED doesn't this void the contract?
    
    I think its horse **** and 10 gb is not much data at all... think about if you use myspace without the silly app. Even at that I'm paying for what is said to be UNLIMITED yet their gonna change it on me AFTER i sign a contract for 2 years. GG t-mobile GFG    by telliksemoh
    
23. 10GB is a crapton of bandwidth, you guys out there that say it isnt obviously dont know anything about data transfer, now if you are DLing a lot of stuff then ya thats not a lot but for surfing and small dls (phone usage) you will likely not exceed 1GB a month unless you have a constant data stream going (like a server) even streaming video and music you would be hard pressed to meet that cap UNLESS you were streaming almost constantly we are talking about roughly 10,000MB of data the average song is 3-6MB and videos are usually 20-100 so worst case your getting about 1500 songs or 1000 videos or comination thereof not bad if you ask me.
    
    BUT it would be messed to institute the cap on users that have already signed a contract for unlimited. Tmo is good about Grandfathering people on thier plans I have voice plan with them that hasnt been available for 2.5years. But if they do change it for current users that is grounds to leave your contract w/o penalty although you may need to have a lawyer help you.    by mr.black
    
24. The 10Gb cap doesn't concern me but the price increase does.    by smasraum
    
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    Originally Posted by refused9150 From my understanding it is for new customers. If they changed this plan option for current customers that would be grounds for ending your contract without paying an early termination fee (ETF).

    Crossing my fingers then that it effects all people.    by senor360
    
26. my 3G connection sucks, so I turned it OFF. Even then, my fab 2G connection blipped out the other night. 3 calls to tmo and it was finally resurrected.    by fuelafire
    
27. Hey guys,
    
    "Unlimited" just means that you can transfer as much data as you want. They are not cutting off your data, they are simply capping the speed once you go over 10gb. You will still have the internet, just not at the full speed.
    
    Tethering? T-Mobile already said that their service was not to be used for tethering. They said they won't stop people from using tethering software, but it is against their terms to use tethering.
    
    As already stated -- their network is not meant to be your source of internet at home. Bandwidth is shared and while you're sucking it all up downloading with your home computer, everyone else on the network is suffering.
    
    I have no problem with the 10gb limit. I will never reach it, and I'm glad that T-Mobile is taking an initiative to prevent people from constantly sucking down bandwidth I could be using.    by Jorsher
    
28. Personally I'm all for these new and improved definitions of words! If "unlimited" means "up to 10gb at normal speeds, then throttled to 50k/s," I also propose the definition of "pay" be "to provide money for services until the bill reaches $80, in which case only $0.10 on every dollar thereafter is provided."
    
    I also propose the word "workweek" to be redefined as "2 days during the week in which people perform menial tasks yet are paid as if they worked 7", and "children" be redefined as "offspring which can be sold for medical experiments, the lot of them".    by ickyfehmleh
    
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    Originally Posted by ickyfehmleh Personally I'm all for these new and improved definitions of words! If "unlimited" means "up to 10gb at normal speeds, then throttled to 50k/s," I also propose the definition of "pay" be "to provide money for services until the bill reaches $80, in which case only $0.10 on every dollar thereafter is provided." I also propose the word "workweek" to be redefined as "2 days during the week in which people perform menial tasks yet are paid as if they worked 7", and "children" be redefined as "offspring which can be sold for medical experiments, the lot of them".

    How much are we talking about per kid? Age/size matter? I've got 2 that are begging to leave.    by senor360
    
30. It doesn't matter about the cap being at 10gb or 100gb. If you are paying $35.00/month for a service that they say is UNLIMITED, then you should be able to use the phone as much as you want to do whatever you want. You are PAYING for the service therefore they cannot or in other words SHOULD not limit you to how much you can use.
    
    and for whomever said they are not "cutting" it off they are just "limiting" you...that's outrageous,SIMPLY BECAUSE WE AS THE CONSUMER ARE PAYING FOR THESE EXTRA SERVICES.    by stcx86
    
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    Originally Posted by stcx86 It doesn't matter about the cap being at 10gb or 100gb. If you are paying $35.00/month for a service that they say is UNLIMITED, then you should be able to use the phone as much as you want to do whatever you want. You are PAYING for the service therefore they cannot or in other words SHOULD not limit you to how much you can use. and for whomever said they are not "cutting" it off they are just "limiting" you...that's outrageous,SIMPLY BECAUSE WE AS THE CONSUMER ARE PAYING FOR THESE EXTRA SERVICES.

    Just think of it as you're paying unlimited data, but not unlimited speed. Regardless, a few people kicking and screaming about it isn't going to sway T-Mobile, they have an entire network to think about and they aren't going to let a few bandwidth hogs ruin it for the rest of their customer base.    by GasBot
    
32. understandable but still...it's the concept of the fact that we are paying...out of our own pockets...despite how expensive this data plan is. if they feel that people are hogging up the network then UPGRADE the network and make it so that it can handle that type of activity.    by stcx86
    
33. The funny part is that noone has talked about WHY tmo is throttling. There's a limit so ppl don't take advantage of the service, using it in ways for which it wasn't intended and choking the existing bandwidth. If there was no limit... and everyone started tethering devices on wifi and 3g networks and downloading constantly NOONE would be able to use the service because there just isn't that much bandwidth. The pipe can only pump so much water. So tmo now has this throttling policy which sets the limit at twice their competitors and everyone starts bitching. I'm glad I use the carrier that offers me the best service. Greedy bastards...    by sl1pg8r
    
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    Originally Posted by GasBot Just think of it as you're paying unlimited data, but not unlimited speed. Regardless, a few people kicking and screaming about it isn't going to sway T-Mobile, they have an entire network to think about and they aren't going to let a few bandwidth hogs ruin it for the rest of their customer base.

    Good way of looking at it.    by RussianSolja
    
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    Originally Posted by sl1pg8r The pipe can only pump so much water.

    Thank you Senator Stevens.
    
    We as consumers should realize that we cannot use services sold by companies as they are labeled but rather as the company intends for us to use them.    by ickyfehmleh
    
36. I haven't posted in a while, but this thread just wants me to post. As MANY other people have posted, T-Mobile isn't doing anything wrong. Paying for unlimited data? So am I, but after I use 10GBs of it(and that is quite a lot, mind you) in a month, they slow down my speeds so that they can still continue to provide fast service to those who don't use as much data.
    
    In reality, they are trying to be as fair as possible. They are giving you a lot of bandwidth to use, as they are everybody else, but understand that there are some who will use up vast amounts of bandwidth for unforeseen purposes. This is so Jane Doe can still load up the internet that she hasn't used in three weeks at a fast pace. If you have two dogs of the same size, and one eats faster than the other, is it fair if the other one doesn't get as much food?
    
    Just so everyone knows, YOU STILL GET ALL THE DATA YOU WANT, YOU JUST DON'T GET THE SAME SPEEDS IF YOU ARE A GREEDY BASTARD. Those who are complaining are whining about T-Mobile trying to be fair to their customers. Would you rather them favor some group of people, such as those who are rich?    by EclipsedExistence
    
37. so does that mean that once u go over 10gb for that same month, they will then limit your speed but once the new month/billing cycle begins...will you be back up to your "normal" speed?    by stcx86
    
38. yes (this message is at least 10 characters in length)    by sl1pg8r
    
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    Originally Posted by EclipsedExistence Just so everyone knows, YOU STILL GET ALL THE DATA YOU WANT, YOU JUST DON'T GET THE SAME SPEEDS IF YOU ARE A GREEDY BASTARD. Those who are complaining are whining about T-Mobile trying to be fair to their customers. Would you rather them favor some group of people, such as those who are rich?

    TMobile isn't doing this out of concern for customers, they're doing it because it lets them buy smaller amounts of bandwidth and then oversell it. If customers would take TMobile (indeed, any ISP) to task on these sorts of issues we'd see less and less throttling/overpromising/underdelivering, but people seem to be perfectly willing to give up things to appease giant corporations that don't really care about them, some even going so far as to defend the corporation's actions.    by ickyfehmleh
    
40. Let's put this into perspective. In order to reach the 10GB cap, you would need to be running your phone's data connection at full 3G speeds for about 10 FULL DAYS.
    
    There's no way a normal user could get anywhere near that, even with tethering and lots of downloads.    by doomcomplex
    
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    Originally Posted by doomcomplex Let's put this into perspective. In order to reach the 10GB cap, you would need to be running your phone's data connection at full 3G speeds for about 10 FULL DAYS. There's no way a normal user could get anywhere near that, even with tethering and lots of downloads.

    Do you mind breaking down the math for us? (-:    by calador
    
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    Originally Posted by calador Do you mind breaking down the math for us? (-:

    Hmm... looks like I got my math screwed up the first time I did this. The real number is actually 27.4 hours. I can't figure out what I did wrong last night. Oh well.
    
    Anyway, that's still a lot of data. I live with two other guys and we all download pretty heavily. We almost never hit 30GB a month combined, and that's on our home wifi connection.
    
    Here's the math:
    
    I'm assuming that your average 3G download speed will be 700 kilobits per second. Depending on your location, you might get a little higher than this, or much lower. I'll also assume your upload speed is 150 kilobits per second, which is extremely high--you'll rarely if ever get a 3G connection with >150 kbps upload, at least not on T-mobile's current system. Combine those, and I'll assume constant data transfer rate of 850 kilobits per second.
    
    10 gigabytes is 83,886,080 kilobits. Divide 83,886,080 by 850 and you'll get ~98,689 (rounded down to the nearest whole number). That's the number of seconds you can run your phone at 850 kilobits per second before you hit the 10 gigabyte cap.
    
    Divide 98,689 by 60, and you get ~1,644 (again, rounded down). That's the number of minutes you can run your phone at full speed before hitting the cap.
    
    Divide 1,644 by 60 again, and you get 27.4 hours before you hit the cap.    by doomcomplex
    
43. 1 gigabyte is 8,388,608 kilobits.    by ickyfehmleh