It remains to be seen how much street view access you’ll be able to get before bumping into T-Mobile’s 3G 1GB data cap. Â With data intensive phones there are always limitations as to how much you can use before the provider starts losing money:Â with the G1 it appears to be as low as 1GB.
Using the G1 for internet access on your laptop (tethering) is completely out of the picture with these data restrictions in place. If your total data usage in any billing cycle is more than 1GB, T-Mobile reserves the right to lower your bandwidth usage to 50 kbps or less for the remainder of your billing cycle, and/or terminate or suspend your contract.
This data limitation on such a phone is crippling. While it keeps the monthly data package price low, it limits usage in a big way. With downloading applications, sending instant messages browsing the web and downloading media from Amazon there is little bandwidth left to use. The iPhone 3G has a cap of 5-6GBs depending on where you live, giving users more options as to just how they use their phone. The iPhone 3G pulls away in this aspect seeing as how both phones being about the same with data usage.
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At the same time - this could be just a precaution not to over-load the 3G network that will just be launched ...
MMS ~ 20kb so 50,000 is 1GB
Google Street View Im not sure but I would say ~ 500kb so 2,000 is 1GB
Pictures ~ 20kb-1MB (depending on source, assume aroung 100kb) so 50,000 to 1,000 is 1GB (assuming 100kb is 10,000 for 1GB)
Youtube Video ~ 3MB/minute is 333 minutes for 1GB
Songs ~ 3MB-4MB is about 300 songs for 1GB
Hope this helps.
It's not as horrible as it sounds folks, although I would much rather have a 5gb limit.
MMS ~ 20kb so 50,000 is 1GB
Google Street View Im not sure but I would say ~ 500kb so 2,000 is 1GB
Pictures ~ 20kb-1MB (depending on source, assume aroung 100kb) so 50,000 to 1,000 is 1GB (assuming 100kb is 10,000 for 1GB)
Youtube Video ~ 3MB/minute is 333 minutes for 1GB
Songs ~ 3MB-4MB is about 300 songs for 1GB
Hope this helps.
It's not as if they are going to charge you or cut you off. They would in theory slow you down. Big difference.
Also, do I think I might break the 1 GB barrier on downloads on my phone? Yes, I do, BUT not on the 3G network. In my experience, there's wifi practically everywhere. Day to day, I have it at work, at home, at my parents', my friends' pretty much everyone's house, and I've found, when hanging with friends, most restaurants even have open wifi networks. The phone will seamlessly jump onto these networks as I understand it, so I would be surprised to see my data usage going over a couple hundred MB. This is the experience my friends are having with their iphones. One of them doesn't even have a data plan (bought his phone without contract), and doesn't miss it.
MMS ~ 20kb so 50,000 is 1GB
Google Street View Im not sure but I would say ~ 500kb so 2,000 is 1GB
Pictures ~ 20kb-1MB (depending on source, assume aroung 100kb) so 50,000 to 1,000 is 1GB (assuming 100kb is 10,000 for 1GB)
Youtube Video ~ 3MB/minute is 333 minutes for 1GB
Songs ~ 3MB-4MB is about 300 songs for 1GB
Hope this helps.
- The phone automatically switches to open access points (saves T-Mobile as a company, and us as a consumer bandwidth)
- Most of the heavy traffic can be done on a computer
- I'd have to use 33MB a day, which I don't think I'll do since I mostly want it for IM/Email, and the occasional web-browsing
Anyways, as its been repeated over and over. T-Mobile has the right too, but it doesn't mean they'll actually do it.
Bwhahaha good one T-Mobile... I smell class action LAWSUIT!
- Tethering
- VOD and other streaming media
- mp3 download
Amazon has the section for mp3 download as well as VOD. I'm guessing that's what we'll have access to. Now how much of that counts towards your 1Gb cap and how much of it falls under "... Some downloads, such as movies, music, and games, not included." we don't know.
I smell a class action LAWSUIT!
- Tethering
- VOD and other streaming media
- mp3 download
Amazon has the section for mp3 download as well as VOD. I'm guessing that's what we'll have access to. Now how much of that counts towards your 1Gb cap and how much of it falls under "... Some downloads, such as movies, music, and games, not included." we don't know.
I smell a class action LAWSUIT!
Thanks.
Bwhahaha good one T-Mobile... I smell class action LAWSUIT!
Thanks.
Bwhahaha good one T-Mobile... I smell class action LAWSUIT!
They've also covered their butts by disclosing that speed will be limited after using 1gb of bandwidth. Class action lawsuit for doing what they said they'll do?
"LAWSUIT" for something that you can't sue for. They're still giving you unlimited data, just at a reduced speed like all the members have been telling you.
EDIT: Jorsher beat me to it... Never mind.
"LAWSUIT" for something that you can't sue for. They're still giving you unlimited data, just at a reduced speed like all the members have been telling you.
EDIT: Jorsher beat me to it... Never mind.
(Need to find the source for this I think...anyone have a link?)
(Need to find the source for this I think...anyone have a link?)
EDIT: OK, I didn't see that option among the others
- advertise that you're paying a monthly rate for 1 GB of data (NOT "unlimited")
- make it really easy to track your data usage via the phone AND via a web portal (a la how dialing #MIN# on a tmo phone will tell you your minutes used this billing cycle)
- send a warning text message to a user who is approaching their monthly cap
- either throttle the user down, or set a per-MB fee for exceeding the cap. Ideally, *let the customer choose* which penalty to accept when they sign up (then they can choose whether money or performance matters more to them).
With the exception of giving choice in the last one, anything less than this I would consider sub-par customer service on the part of the carrier. If they implemented that last item I'd consider that going above and beyond.
They obviously weren't calling the speeds unlimited, because it's always limited. The data IS unlimited.
I mean it wouldn't hurt to let them know and see what happens.
I think we should probably put a front page story up about this!
It's not as horrible as it sounds folks, although I would much rather have a 5gb limit.
http://androidcommunity.com/t-mobile...ewed-20080924/
MMS ~ 20kb so 50,000 is 1GB
Google Street View Im not sure but I would say ~ 500kb so 2,000 is 1GB
Pictures ~ 20kb-1MB (depending on source, assume aroung 100kb) so 50,000 to 1,000 is 1GB (assuming 100kb is 10,000 for 1GB)
Youtube Video ~ 3MB/minute is 333 minutes for 1GB
Songs ~ 3MB-4MB is about 300 songs for 1GB
Hope this helps.
what if i use the wi-fi at my house for youtube? does that still count towards exchanging data with the tmobile servers or will it just exchange data through MY servers (comcast internet wi-fi thingy) ??
Look at the front page or use the search button
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