Android Community has done it again, this time we bring you an exclusive first time user review of T-Mobile’s G1. Forum member kaziko has given us a sneak peak at T-Mobile’s first device to run Google’s Android operating system. He put together a nice Q&A as well as providing us with a pros and cons list. The more we hear about the G1 the more anticipation builds, as we all wait for the 22nd to get our hands on this gem.

This device is very similar to the SideKick, Kaziko went on to say “Its a sidekick on massive steroids … If it had a box on the left side it would feel exactly like a Sidekick”. This is good news for a lot of the current Sidekick users who are looking for a long awaited upgrade to a device that sees very little change. This device has great call quality and a relatively loud speaker in comparison to other HTC devices. The G1 comes pre-loaded with a smooth running, easy to use instant messaging client that supports Google Talk, AIM, ICQ and MSN out of the box.
With all phones there is a bit of a downside to them, and in Kaiziko’s words “[the] phone does not run as smoothly as you would think”. Some of the applications “stutter” as they start up and from time to time the device must be restarted in order to run smoothly. Thankfully these drawbacks can ultimately be fixed with firmware and software upgrades. The battery charger makes the bottom of the device very hot and is in an awkward location for text messaging while it is charging.
PRO’s:
- The device is fairly quick to startup compared to other HTC devices.
- It is very light considering what’s inside.
- The slide out keyboard works well and doesn’t have a flimsy feel to it.
- The Android Market works just as well as the iPhone’s App Store.
- There are already a lot of useful apps to download from the Android Market, including a free ringtone maker.
- The earpiece is fairly clear when making and receiving calls, you hear absolutely no static.
- The speaker is relatively loud compared to other HTC devices.
CON’s:
- The G1 has a big memory leak somewhere, and has to be restarted in order to get it running smoothly again.
- The battery charger makes the bottom of the phone extremely hot.
- No virtual QWERTY keyboard included.
- The phone doesn’t run as smoothly as you would think, programs sometimes stutter trying to start up.
- There is no folder system like that found on other HTC devices: finding your files requires you to search around in one of the various programs associated with the file type you’re trying to view.
- Video playback is very limited. The G1 would not play .mpg or .wmv files which are pretty much the standard when it comes to videos downloaded off the net.
kaziko answered questions that Android Community forum members have about the G1:
Q. Any word on saving the apps from the market on the microSD card?
A. Not even sure where the market apps are stored at this point in time.
Q. Does the G1 have vibrate then ring?
A. The only option I see is vibrate on/vibrate off.
Q. I have a Sidekick 2008 right now, could I use the same microSD card that is in my Sidekick 08 for the G1?
A. Yes you can use your microSD card up to 8GB without having to reformat.
Q. Is there any word about a third party applications using AIM, ICQ, MSN?
A. There is a program pre-installed that handles all instant messaging (Google Talk, AIM, ICQ, MSN).
Q. How are IM app buddy lists structured? Are all buddies (GTalk, AIM, Y!M, MSN) on one list, or are they separate screens? And are groups utilized on the buddy lists if you are using them in AIM, etc?
A. They are not structured like they should be for sure. Each messaging program has its own group and your personal groups are broken down inside the specific clients.
Q. Do the buttons on the chin light up like the UK version?
A. I’m not exactly sure what you mean by the buttons by the chin, but the visible buttons do light up.
Q. Can I use my $19.95 unlimited family messaging plan with the $25 dollar G1 internet feature?
A. You can actually just use a $19.99 Data plan alongside the $19.95 messaging to eliminate wasting the $5.00, T-Mobile just doesn’t want people to know they can do this.
Q. How is the responsiveness of the touch screen?
A. Ever played with an iPhone? If so, it’s rather responsive, anybody who’s owned an HTC device knows how aggravating the touchscreens can be. HTC pulled a fast one and really made the TS [on the G1] extremely usable with just the slight “touch” of a finger.
Q. If you lock the phone, does sliding [the screen] up automatically unlock it?
A. The only form of lock I’ve used is pressing the power button to blank the screen and that pretty much locks the device, opening the keyboard does not turn the screen back on. i will try to pattern lock tonight and get back with a better answer on this.
Q. Is there any kind of headphone adapter in the box?
A. No, the G1 comes in box with a stereo headset with inline volume control and answer/end/command button, a G1 branded microfiber slipper protective case, travel charger, USB cable and a user manual/getting started guide. This is what was in my G1, which is a pre-release model and might be different than the one actually released.
Q. Is the screen made of glass (like the iPhone) or plastic?
A. I’m not sure 100% about this but I think it’s glass, plastic screens don’t seem to have the sensitivity like glass screens do, and this runs perfectly so I’m assuming glass but I will get clarification on this matter.
I want to thank Android Community member Kaziko for giving us the first user review of the G1. He has really gone out of the way to give us an exclusive inside look at the device. We would be nothing without our members, support from users like him are what make us what we are.
Disclaimer: The views / opinions expressed in this article are solely of forum member kaziko, and does not reflect that of Android Community.












Take care and God Bless!
Only a couple more weeks before we can all provide our own reviews!
does the keyboard light up? also does the trackball light up.
does the keyboard light up? also does the trackball light up.
Trackball - No
Cant wait to get mine!
Remember that Google is an advocate of "tags/labels and searching, not folders". They do this in their bookmarks application, and in their mail application. I wouldn't be surprised to see that philosophy continue on to Android, despite the fact that they could, and should, support both. (netvouz is a great example of an on-line bookmark service which does both tagging and foldering)
Trackball - No
thanks alot.
"The first of the user reviews are trickling in and it is not exactly a big thumbs up for the T-Mobile G1, the device based on Google's newly launched Android operating system that will be available starting Oct. 22.
The G1 is HTC Sidekick phone "on massive steroids" but "does not run as smoothly as you would think" says a review posted by a user with the handle 'kaziko' on AndroidCommunity.com"
dont let it get to you.
"The first of the user reviews are trickling in and it is not exactly a big thumbs up for the T-Mobile G1, the device based on Google's newly launched Android operating system that will be available starting Oct. 22.
The G1 is HTC Sidekick phone "on massive steroids" but "does not run as smoothly as you would think" says a review posted by a user with the handle 'kaziko' on AndroidCommunity.com"
edit: NM read the article...they didn't really put a negative spin on it but they sure as hell didn't make it seem as lightly passable as Kaz did....
I cannot wait until 22nd to get my G1
edit: NM read the article...they didn't really put a negative spin on it but they sure as hell didn't make it seem as lightly passable as Kaz did....
We are also finding your words popping up on other sites...doggone watchdogs!
Then again...what am I thinking? The author of this blog is obviously trying to get a lot of traffic to his site (and I helped him! fancy that...lol). What better way to do that then to post something, I think, was negative about a device that hasn't been released yet.
Thats decent though, until we hear Wired say: "More reviews from user's @ AC - Yahoo msg is included, battery was hot because.... blah blah blah"
Just sayin...
so i guess to get the $19.99 data plan you have to do it when the G1 is released? because the website for pre orders only give you the $25 or $35 data plan options w/ the text
Thats decent though, until we hear Wired say: "More reviews from user's @ AC - Yahoo msg is included, battery was hot because.... blah blah blah"
Just sayin...
What can they do to "fix" the known issues and release a "final version" that is days away?
Can someone explain this to me?
What can they do to "fix" the known issues and release a "final version" that is days away?
Can someone explain this to me?
What known issues are those? Please enlighten us...
What known issues are those? Please enlighten us...
I think I read somewhere that someone said it was perhaps not "the final release" of the phone.
I think I read somewhere that someone said it was perhaps not "the final release" of the phone.
About the stuttering...Hmmmmm
the G1 fits perfectly between teeny and a adult phone
Can you describe exactly what you mean by applications "stuttering" on loading?
What exactly happens?
Thanks a ton!!!
some other questions- will it display flash on webpages?
Can you surf right over to a site hosting FLV files (like youtube, engadget, etc) and watch them?
How do CSS/Ajax elements display in the browser- for example, widgets on Igoogle.com
These will not display at all on a sidekick..
Q2. Is there a flash on the camera? Or any functions to change it so the image can come up clearer in low light?
Q3. You said that the bottom of the phone got hot when you were charging it. But then you later found out that it was because you weren't using the USB cable to charge it, so that was causing the heating problem. What exactly were you using to charge it &what do you have to use when charging it? It comes with a charge &the USB cable.
First off there's no app out of box to play videos off the SD card. But from what i've seen the Youtube application opens sideways and takes up the whole screen.
Q2. Is there a flash on the camera? Or any functions to change it so the image can come up clearer in low light?
No. There's autofocus, but that might not help in low light.
Q3. You said that the bottom of the phone got hot when you were charging it. But then you later found out that it was because you weren't using the USB cable to charge it, so that was causing the heating problem. What exactly were you using to charge it &what do you have to use when charging it? It comes with a charge &the USB cable.
Guessing here but he was probably using a generic (Cheap) USB cable, not the one that comes with the box
appreciate all the info. funny thing is that all the cons you mentioned are now posted everywhere and have a lot of people freakin out. on tmonews there's a whole thread dedicated to the memory leak and the review and then the post on wired.com. lol
First off there's no app out of box to play videos off the SD card. But from what i've seen the Youtube application opens sideways and takes up the whole screen.
Q2. Is there a flash on the camera? Or any functions to change it so the image can come up clearer in low light?
No. There's autofocus, but that might not help in low light.
Q3. You said that the bottom of the phone got hot when you were charging it. But then you later found out that it was because you weren't using the USB cable to charge it, so that was causing the heating problem. What exactly were you using to charge it &what do you have to use when charging it? It comes with a charge &the USB cable.
Guessing here but he was probably using a generic (Cheap) USB cable, not the one that comes with the box
Thanks for answering my questions in a timely fashion, really appreciate it. I've got a few more questions that have slipped my mind. Hope you can answer then eventually when i can get them down. Thanks again.
A. You can actually just use a $19.99 Data plan alongside the $19.95 messaging to eliminate wasting the $5.00, T-Mobile just doesnt want people to know they can do this.
And thank you for your review and your amendments to the review. Enjoy that baby...might as well, since you aren't gonna be getting much sleep!
A. You can actually just use a $19.99 Data plan alongside the $19.95 messaging to eliminate wasting the $5.00, T-Mobile just doesnt want people to know they can do this.
A. $25 - data plan - unlimited data + 400 messages (SMS/MMS/IM/etc)
B. $35 - data plan - unlimited date + unlimited text messages.
whats thie $19.99 data plan you all speak about, would it be the same internet plan that i currently have now, which i use for my blackberry internet service?
I have a tmobile family plan unlimited texts which is $20 and the internet is $20, how does this all work out? I'm quite confused. How much will i be paying if i want unlimited everything &which plan would give me unlimited text/data for the lowest price? Which is the best combo? Help?
Other websites are starting to link to this review and they tend to highlight the cons, and it gives a very bad first impression of Android (the memory leak and stuttering especially), which I don't think is actually representative of it, given the phone is pre-release with older firmware and the explanation of the cons isn't that clear in the original article. I'm just worried of the unnessary negative articles that might be written because of this.
Thank you.
Con's: Video playback is very limited. The G1 would not play .mpg or .wmv files which are pretty much the standard when it comes to videos downloaded off the net.
I am very disapointment. BlackBerry Storm and HTC Touch Pro do have the wmv files! Videomail is the best messages for Deaf Communities.
Deaf Communities will be disapointment as I do!
Other websites are starting to link to this review and they tend to highlight the cons, and it gives a very bad first impression of Android (the memory leak and stuttering especially), which I don't think is actually representative of it, given the phone is pre-release with older firmware and the explanation of the cons isn't that clear in the original article. I'm just worried of the unnessary negative articles that might be written because of this.
Thank you.
yeah kaz you need to make a post and retract all those things you said. now it's on phone dog too and just from those things you said, the G1 is getting bad press now. if i was t-mobile or google i would be upset with the stuff you said without really knowing. you started a fire, now you need to put it out.
The headlines of the stories stand out much more than what can be corrected in the comments
Just because For That With The G1 IS 35 Bucks for one phone. But With 2 Would Be 70!
Whats Better .? 40 Dlls or 80 Dlls? lol
EDIT : ( after reading some of the above comments )
There is nothing wrong with letting others know whats wrong with the device.
What exactly can he do now? Those blogs will not retract their articles because he changed his review. And I, personally, never base a purchase on one review. And how in the heck can he be responsible for less sales of the G1?
EDIT : ( after reading some of the above comments )
There is nothing wrong with letting others know whats wrong with the device.
there's nothing wrong with the device. you need to go back and read where kaz took all that stuff back. the stuttering was from him being on edge, the memory leak was from a bad app, and the bottom was getting hot because he wasn't using the charger that came with the phone. and now all these websites are saying the phone has "massive memory leaks" because of kaz's review.
What exactly can he do now? Those blogs will not retract their articles because he changed his review. And I, personally, never base a purchase on one review. And how in the heck can he be responsible for less sales of the G1?
are you serious? not everyone researches products like some us do, before they buy it. a lot of people buy things on hearsay. so if numerous websites are reporting "massive memory leaks" and so forth, you don't think that will sway people's decisions on buying the phone.
i don't purchase things just on reviews either, but a lot of people do. that's all i'm saying. uhhhm, he can review it again and take back the things he said. obviously people are paying attention to this website.
i don't purchase things just on reviews either, but a lot of people do. that's all i'm saying. uhhhm, he can review it again and take back the things he said. obviously people are paying attention to this website.
With a new phone such as this everyone knows the pros, that is why people are focusing on the cons. Everyone knows the cons about the stuttering and having to reset are all common problems of initial release phones, and can be later fixed. This is not a pre-production phone. It is a phone in the same stage of development as any other phone customers will get. T-Mobile wont tell you the cons. Even T-Mobile does not have a problem with these stories.
It seems now that every con is somehow taken back as soon as word gets around. Now I am not stupid, I have been doing this for some time now. It appears someone is just trying to cover there ass so they don't get in trouble because the story got picked up by others and is not out there. That's how the internet works. When you put something on there you risk it getting out everywhere, you cant take it back.
Not trying to be harsh but most of everything on the internet can not be controlled.
and what is the 19.99 family plan?
and what is the 19.99 family plan?
the $19.99 family plan is an unlimited text plan for a family plan.
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f...1-review-2112/
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f...1-review-2112/
snoslicer8?
snoslicer8?
I'm on the fence about G1 or the iPhone. On the iPhone, you have international keyboard that supports east asian characters (korean, chineses, japanese).
the $19.99 family plan is an unlimited text plan for a family plan.
here are the prices
New Activation 2 Year Contract $149.99 (after $50 MIR)
New Activation 1 Year Contract $199.99 (after $50 MIR)
Full Upgrade 2 Year Contract $167.99 (after $50 MIR)
Full Upgrade 1 Year Contract $217.99 (after $50 MIR)
Retail Price: $349.99
Dealer Price: $249.99.
http://blog.fommy.com/archives/647
SOUND IS REDEUCED BY 50% AND END UP GETTING MISSED CALLS.....
Oh, and I would love to see the battery life get improve. I had MDA with a larger battery and I did not mind the bulky feel to it as long as I get extra battery life.