T-Mobile G1 may not be able to get update

18 August 2009 by Shane McGlaun

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In the immortal words of Scooby Doo — rot-row. Apparently, users of the T-Mobile G1 may run into a big problem updating their device. PC World reports that the G1 may be unable to get significant updates in the future because its internal flash storage is nearly full already.

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“As much as I’m hoping that it’ll be possible to somehow continue updating the G1, I can’t promise anything,” Jean-Baptiste Queru, a software engineer at Google, wrote on Twitter. “We knew that internal flash space was going to be very tight on the G1 and we kept the system partition tight on purpose.”

Naturally, T-Mobile denies that the G1 will be unable to get future updates and says that it plans to introduce updates to the software in the future. The thing that some wonder is if G1 users will be able to get big OS updates, or if the updates will be limited to smaller security patches and bug fixes.

[via PC World]

Join the Discussion (24 comments)

analog

08-18-2009 01:56 PM

mother of god, no. i knew it.

::restarts "time until phone hardware update available" clock::
mrcbrown

08-18-2009 02:18 PM

If they would off app storage to the SD there'd probably be no issue, I mean it ships with a free SD, even @ 1GB thats a ton of apps, heck it'd eliminate the "Low Storage" warning

ggrant3876

08-18-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talkbackdroid

In the immortal words of Scooby Doo -- rot-row. Apparently, users of the T-Mobile G1 may run into a big problem updating their device. PC World reports that the G1 may be unable to get significant updates in the future because its internal flash storage is nearly full already.

"As much as I'm hoping that it'll ... Read more

This is the 3rd thread on this subject, 2nd today.

Great news G1 owners! I just received the following official statement from T-Mobile corporate:

We plan to continue working with Google to introduce future software updates to the T-Mobile G1. Reports to the contrary are inaccurate.

There you have it. Please continue to enjoy your T-Mobile G1

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Dominic
Moderator, T-Mobile Forums

ahugo68

08-18-2009 02:36 PM

Thanks grant I am getting sick of seeing this same topic in mutiple threads
ggrant3876

08-18-2009 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahugo68

Thanks grant I am getting sick of seeing this same topic in mutiple threads

Your not the only one. Haven't heard from simms today.
TheJuan

08-18-2009 02:46 PM

This is the official ac thread from our home page
Anyways I pay no attention to this. We got apps2sd and freaking xda people.so....

Sup guys

ggrant3876

08-18-2009 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJuan

This is the official ac thread from our home page
Anyways I pay no attention to this. We got apps2sd and freaking xda people.so....

Sup guys

Right, we already have alot of donuts and glaze. You heard anything from simms today, posted about 3am, haven't heard from hin since.

TheJuan

08-18-2009 02:58 PM

He's prolly busy at work

U try that batman call, but for simms

Here it goes "HEELLPPPP"
ggrant3876

08-18-2009 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJuan

He's prolly busy at work

U try that batman call, but for simms

Here it goes "HEELLPPPP"

That always works, doesn't it? He finally made an appearance.
hondamx525

08-18-2009 04:00 PM

When is everybody going to figure out that the talkback articles go on the front page for people to see. Not everyone goes on forums and this article goes on the android community homepage so that you dont have to enter the forums to see it.
Munkie013

08-18-2009 04:58 PM

isnt it possible for them to release an update that will put apps to the SD thus freeing internal memory for updates? I mean its already being done on plenty of rooted phones out there mine included. All they would have to do is tell people to have at least 100 MB free on their SD cards before the update and then turn that 100 MB's into an ext 2/3/4 partition. Im not very knowledgeable when it comes to things like this but wouldnt that be the best way to go about it?
hondamx525

08-18-2009 05:00 PM

No because people can steal applications when they are stored on the sd card. They would need to find a more secure way of doing apps to sd before they do so.
Munkie013

08-18-2009 05:06 PM

But what about the backup apps that do this already and store the .apk on the SD card like Astro. Seems like people could already do this.
TheJuan

08-18-2009 05:08 PM

They should make the apps match the phone some how. How does windows mobile do it??

konzern

08-18-2009 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munkie013

isnt it possible for them to release an update that will put apps to the SD thus freeing internal memory for updates? I mean its already being done on plenty of rooted phones out there mine included. All they would have to do is tell people to have at least 100 MB free on their SD cards before the update and then turn that 100 MB's into an ext 2/3/4 partition. Im not very knowledgeable when it comes to things like this but wouldnt that be the best way to go about it?

apps2sd has nothing to do with the flash memory the phone has for updates. they are 2 different things, the flash memory is hidden and only used for the OTA updates and stuff like that. the internal memory on the other hand can be used for apps and data

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munkie013

But what about the backup apps that do this already and store the .apk on the SD card like Astro. Seems like people could already do this.

this is also not true, if a developer chooses to make his/her app private then astro cannot copy the apk file. a developer can choose to make it private wether its a paid or free app

birdman81484

08-18-2009 09:30 PM

Concerning the internal flash... Couldn't an update be engineered to increase the internal flash by taking it from another partition?? Isn't that what has already been done in the root movement?

Munkie013

08-18-2009 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman81484

Concerning the internal flash... Couldn't an update be engineered to increase the internal flash by taking it from another partition?? Isn't that what has already been done in the root movement?

Thats kinda along the lines of what i was thinking. If thats not the case then why is it the bigger rom you load on your phone (say hero around 80mb) the less internal storage you have before apps to sd is applied.

Rebellion

08-19-2009 10:44 AM

I would hope that there would be a newer version of the G1 released, as I prefer the physical keyboard over the touch. I would then recommend that T-Mobile go and give us a free update to this new phone, regardless of the contract time.
djunio

08-19-2009 10:58 AM

Coudn't they modify haykuro spl and push that as an ota then the G1 can continue to be updated?
1kit

08-19-2009 06:21 PM

I spent a long time signing in, composing my reply to g1 updates, then submitting it. So where is my reply???
1kit

08-19-2009 06:27 PM

Ok I'm new to this. What do you mean "1kit has no status"? I don't understand "modify" "edit" styatus. Please help
constellanation

08-19-2009 06:47 PM

You just have to make something up there bud. it's like a facebook status.

mine says something about searching because that's what i changed it to...
alabamawhizkid

08-25-2009 10:45 PM

man i wish that there was a wwe app in the android market.. u know, like the twidget lite app, that updates you on your twitter page... the wwe widget could post stories from wwe.com..
Jak Crow

08-26-2009 01:10 PM

All you need is an updated SPL that will repartition the phone. I'm already running the "danger" SPL, which has expanded the /system partition to 90MB, which is the same size as the mytouch and hero /system partitions. And this was with a hacked SPL. An official SPL would be a breeze