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T-Mobile G1, a true always on connection

03 December 2008 by Staff Editor


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Users are finding out the hard way why T-Mobile says you need to have a data play in order to have the T-Mobile G1. One user traveled abroad and ended up racking up a $102.85 bill while data roaming. The big twist here is the fact that he had turned off roaming data sync and 3G completely.

Apparently after getting back from a trip to the UK, he gave T-Mobile a call and spoke with several customer service representatives until a supervisor explained the situation.  The G1 always accesses the Internet, even when the Internet services are turned off; the G1 will reach out for sending text messages or even placing calls.  In the end the customer service supervisor said, “the phone should have been left in the USA to avoid these charges.”

It comes as no surprise that at no time this was mentioned during the phone call placed to enable international calling on his plan. The representatives only stated that he would be charged $10 for every MB of data used and that if he simply stayed off the Internet than he would have no problem. He was being charged about $.15 every 3-7 minutes on average whether on a call or not. It looks like our G1 is not going overseas with us.

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  1. can this happen in the united states if there is not data coverage
  2. There's no reason not to bring it overseas. Just swap the SIM card out for a foreign carrier using some prepaid minutes or something.
  3. This better not be true. I was in Canada for a few days, and if I get a $100+ bill, I'll be PISSED. I specifically turned off data so that would not happen, although I did receive a few text messages (not by choice). No way to use phone and not accept them that a I am aware of.

    W

    Update: I just checked t-mobile.com -- under "My Account"-->"Bills and Usage". Then on the right, under "See details of current usage", I didn't notice anything unusual. Five bucks or so over the regular bill, but I did make like one or two roaming calls from Canada.

    Here's the scary thing though: Under the usage details tab, I can pull down "data services charges" .. I see no activity, but there are six pages of NOTHING. Choosing between the various pages doesn't show a thing.

    We'll see what happens. But to be clear, I am not going to pay for "data roaming" that I specifically told the phone not to do.
  4. Want to make sure you don't access data overseas? Go in the settings and change the apn to something wrong. Wrong apn = no access to data usually. Not sure if it will work, but sounds like it will.
  5. I like your tip on that DJ

    and i hope they're not making him pay this amount. How would any customer know that the phone always "reaches out". Upon reading, it seems the CR didn't even know that. I hope they reverse those charges.
  6. Well I live in Hong Kong and I have an internet plan with my phone company but right now I turned off all my data because they already told me that I have $40+ HKD extra charge for 3G downloading...(it could be the inital setup with gmail account but not sure got the phone Nov 24th) but I do notice that the 3G icon on the phone do have some signal of downloading and uploading when I leave it on and alone. So I waiting to see what happen when my bill come probably next week. Because I am still trying to figure out the apn configuration on the damn phone for my carrier and see if they support the browser or not
  7. Actually I tried to change my APN settings to something incorrect. However, the phone keeps connecting to internet, apprently using some internally stored configuration by the time I initially synchronized with my google account. Is anybody experiencing the same?
  8. no wonder the battery gets drained so fast
  9. Funny it keeps a connection when roaming yet when i try to keep instant messenger on for more than 3 F$#!ing minutes it fails. Ok I'm done thank you
  10. Good point fonzy.

    Fortunately I don't travel overseas or outside the US very often although I do go to Mexico with some frequency (I live in San Diego).
    Personally, if it ever happens to me I'd be willing to launch a class action suit against TMO/HTC for doing this. The phone has an option to SPECIFICALLY DISABLE mobile data roaming so that this does not happen. More deplorable is the fact that customer service reps at TMO don't know enough to give users the correct information.
    If this is all true, it's definitely lawsuit material.
  11. I agree with the lawsuit opinion 100% . . . and I'm not usually a big fan of legal action. If you can't stop a phone from contacting a network, then there shouldn't be a charge. Never mind that the store employees didn't advise the customer correctly.
  12. Not to get off topic.. but if it "always reaches out" then does that come off our soon to be cap?
  13. Quote:
    Originally Posted by All~G1 View Post
    Not to get off topic.. but if it "always reaches out" then does that come off our soon to be cap?

    Gee, I would hope that little network queries aren't being tallied toward a total but considering how stingy Tmo is getting . . . wouldn't surprise me.
  14. You have got to be kidding about charges from using your phone overseas? I bought my phone for that reason. To travel. I would assume that I will pay for phone minutes, and text messages. But I don't expect to pay for checking my email. I figured I would have trouble with the internet and thought of using only free wifi sites and hot spots.
  15. *EDIT* Do not link to competing sites.

    Seems the phone gets T-Mobile US and T-Mobile UK confused and doesn't realize it's roaming when it is... thus the prohibitions on data roaming never are implemented.

    W


  16. It seems to me that accessing the internet (true internet wireless) for email whould be the same whether one is overseas or not, but 3G and phone services might invoke roaming charges.

    Are there settings I can invoke to access wi-fi only? I will be traveling to Europe in a few weeks. I planned to call T mobile for advice. This thread is disturbing.
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