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T-Mobile employees clueless about the G1

24 October 2008 by Staff Editor


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It appears that many T-Mobile stores tell customers that they do not sell the G1 because they are out of the 3G coverage area. Although all of the stores may have the large posters of the G1 and even a demo model many are saying they don’t sell them, when in reality you can purchase one wherever you are located within the US.

Whether or not the employees are well informed or not, the store may not have them in stock, but they can order one for you. Many people have been turned away which in some cases persuade the customer not to even bother trying to get the phone when it is as simple as ordering it. Neil Gaiman was a victim of the ignorance of others, writing about it on his blog. It strikes us as odd to read that the employees did not seem to know what it was they were talking about.

“I opened the Google window and found myself looking at an advert for a G1 phone. A couple of clicks later I was on the T-mobile website, checking prices and thinking, “Well, I do need a new phone…”

But randomly buying a phone I haven’t even held seemed like, well, something that I couldn’t imagine myself doing. I wanted to hold it. I wanted to know the specs and such, so I put dog in the back of the car and drove to the local T-Mobile shop.

I knew I was in the right place because there were huge posters everywhere, some bigger than I was, all advertising the new t-Mobile G1.

“Hello,” I said, like a man entering a cheeseshop. “I’d like to play with a G1, please.”

There was a man and a woman behind the counter. They said they were sorry but they didn’t have a G1 for me to play with.

“When will you get them in?”

“We won’t get them in.”

“No?”

“No.”

“Look, are we talking about the same thing? G1 phone. The one on that poster. And that poster. And that one…” The posters were staring at me from the counter. They were all around me.

“No. We won’t sell it. We’re out of the range and the Google and things that the phone comes with, they won’t work on it.”

I pulled out my phone, a Nokia N 73, with a T-Mobile SIM card, that happily spends much too much time on the internet doing, er, Google and things. “But this works here…”

“The G1 won’t work. It won’t do the Google here. So we aren’t allowed to sell it.”

“But….” I tried to think with this. then I said, “But you have posters.” I gestured at them. All pictures of the phone in question, extolling its virtues and explaining that you could only get it here.

“We’re a T-Mobile franchise. They send them to us. That’s what we have to put up. The posters they send.”

“Well, can we talk about the G1 specs?”

“We don’t know them.” The man and the woman behind the counter seemed very sad about this. The man added, wistfully,”We don’t even know the price.”

I knew the price, from the website earlier, and I felt guilty about this.

“They have them in the Twin Cities,” said the woman. “You could buy one there.”

“But if I buy it there, it still won’t work here?”

“No,” she said, with sadness and with, I suspect envy in her voice. “but they sell it.”

There was a bit of a pause. I think I may have said, “Sorry about the posters,” as I went out, or I may have just thought it very loudly. They all had pretty pictures of the G1 on them, a phone I don’t think I’m going to bother getting.”

[Via Neil Gaiman's Journal]

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  1. well there's the problem, the rep said they are a franchise so an indirect agent. Had he gone to a direct store, if there was one in the area, then he probably would have been able to get one
    Indirects like this make them all look bad when there are several that are actually really good.
  2. I don't think thats the problem. I work for a corperation (not going to say which one) but we get marketing for things we don't sell, but they make us advertise. It would cost the company more to split advertising by which stores sell what.

    That being said I think that its dumb for a company to almost falsely advertise stuff.

    I love T-mobile and I love my G1 and have recommended it to people, but people outside the network area need to not be pitched for a phone that will get maybe 25% of the functionality. I feel bad for the person who told that story.
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Amoxx View Post
    I don't think thats the problem. I work for a corperation (not going to say which one) but we get marketing for things we don't sell, but they make us advertise. It would cost the company more to split advertising by which stores sell what.

    That being said I think that its dumb for a company to almost falsely advertise stuff.

    I love T-mobile and I love my G1 and have recommended it to people, but people outside the network area need to not be pitched for a phone that will get maybe 25% of the functionality. I feel bad for the person who told that story.
    Dude, I live in a non-3G area and the only thing I can't do is . . . oh wait: I can do everything someone in a 3G area can, as far as I know. EDGE is a little slow, no biggie. What's more, as soon as I get around wi-fi, I have more capabilites and speed than current 3G users so . . .

    I hope you're not responsible for marketing the G1, cuz you're currently doing a poor job.
  4. But your phone cant do the Google.
  5. I feel bad for Mr. Gaiman. I'm probably one of the biggest fans of Sandman and when I saw this on Gizmodo (with the picture of Morpheus and a G1 together), I flipped out, then I was like, aw, bad news. For some hero-type reason, if Neil Gaiman would have bought a G1, I would have bought one as well instead of holding off on a later Android. LOL. Too bad. I wonder what phone he's getting instead.
  6. I have to say I am Sorry if anyone is treated like that at any T-mobile stores but here are the facts...

    If you are not in a 3g area the store will not carry any G1's for purchase . only a Demo, however you can purchase the G1 thru any Customer care Rep.

    The stores have more than enough Documentation to help them answer all sorts of questions about the G1 it is not t-mobile fault if they do not take the time to read it. I tend to agree with the statement that it was an indirect dealer and not a Corporate location.
  7. I bought 2 of them and the guy didn't even know where the micro SD went in at.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by kurrupt_1 View Post
    I bought 2 of them and the guy didn't even know where the micro SD went in at.

    Dedicated employees right there.
  9. I work for a indirect dealer(perferd dealer)and we had a live demo since early october!!! so the place you went to just sucks haha..I live in CT so we cant have them in our stores but we are doing overnight shipping on them which is good. And the best part about it is the Direct store is located 1 min down the road from us and they dont even have a live demo! so it makes us look even better.
  10. I always thought Neil Gaiman lived in England.
  11. Idiotic article in a sense - stating that we don't have them to sell in store is correct if not located in a 3G Market and quite frankly calling customer care to place orders for customers or order online since yesterday is now resulting in either being highly discouraged because of the backorder or they're simply not allowing orders to process period.

    I even had to get a reason out of a Tier 2 PDA rep. today as to why I couldn't have a replacement or even a new order for a G1 placed for a customer whos SIM slot was messed up on her device she just received today.

    Now yes I have successfully placed orders online for customers for the G1 on 10/22 - but now it seems to be at a halt right now with many systems. The last successful sale I was able to do was activating a line with G1 data for a new customer and having them drive to the Philadelphia region to pick up their G1 in store as I arranged with the Philly store locations manager.
  12. Heh, the Tmobile rep I bought mine from was using one as his regular phone and even explained the subtle differences between the black and the brown.

    Then again, I live in San Francisco. I was just lucky they hadn't sold out.
  13. quote**Now yes I have successfully placed orders online for customers for the G1 on 10/22 - but now it seems to be at a halt right now with many systems. The last successful sale I was able to do was activating a line with G1 data for a new customer and having them drive to the Philadelphia region to pick up their G1 in store as I arranged with the Philly store locations manager.[/quote]

    I was on the phone with a Tmo rep earlier to place insurance on my phone and she voluntarily mentioned "we aren't even taking orders for them right now"....I was gonna ask why, but forgot....too busy trying to remember the next question I was gonna ask her.
  14. I Dont think Tmo employees are clueless..well maybe they are..but here in woodbridge,va Tmo isnt allowing us to sell it at all. We are authorized dealers who have stores in 3G markets as well so we already have the phones.. buh we were told that if we even advertise it, our sales would be hurt and customers wouldn't be satisfied. But I also found out that they are letting the corporate stores sell them 5miles away from where my store is located at..I guess they dont want the commission to go to other ppl..or may be they are just plain stupid not realizing that authorized dealers make most of their sales than the corporate stores...
  15. Not all are clueless but in this case you can't convince me that they had even a slight clue when the price was not even known. It wont do the Google??? Are you kidding me? They don't even know what it is.
  16. I try not to trust reps from just about any store, esp when it comes to electronics. This weekend, while very helpful, friendly, and fairly knowledgeable, a T-Mo rep in Joliet, IL told me the processor was not the 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A described on HTC's site, but instead a 700mhz processor... but, I won't fault him too much for that. After all, he did kick one lady off the phone who had been looking at it for quite some time so I could see it.
  17. I bought my G1 on October 23. After MULTIPLE conversations with TMO phone reps and three visits to speak with TMO employees in an attempt to get anything to work on my phone (even something as simple as importing my contacts), I returned my phone for a refund on October 26. I love the concept of the phone, but got so incredibly frustrated with the store referring me to CS and CS referring me to the store when NO ONE knew what they were doing. I wish it had worked. I couldn't do anything except manually dial numbers I knew by heart. Mighty fancy phone if that's all it is going to be capable of. I hope (and I'm sure) that my experience wasn't common, but I bet it was to anyone dealing with this store...and I live in DFW. It was pathetic how clueless everyone was about this phone.
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by arpnsharma View Post
    I Dont think Tmo employees are clueless..well maybe they are..but here in woodbridge,va Tmo isnt allowing us to sell it at all. We are authorized dealers who have stores in 3G markets as well so we already have the phones.. buh we were told that if we even advertise it, our sales would be hurt and customers wouldn't be satisfied. But I also found out that they are letting the corporate stores sell them 5miles away from where my store is located at..I guess they dont want the commission to go to other ppl..or may be they are just plain stupid not realizing that authorized dealers make most of their sales than the corporate stores...
    well, i'm sure you know about the mobile solution if you're an indirect dealer... a phone that is so tied into t-mobile and is a featured product like the sidekick, i wouldn't want authorized dealers selling them either... no support, wheel and dealing is your game...

    i'm not trying to talk down about indirects, cause some are good, but in general selling t-mobile only products only in corporate stores just makes sense for the business and for customers
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by tread View Post
    well, i'm sure you know about the mobile solution if you're an indirect dealer... a phone that is so tied into t-mobile and is a featured product like the sidekick, i wouldn't want authorized dealers selling them either... no support, wheel and dealing is your game...

    i'm not trying to talk down about indirects, cause some are good, but in general selling t-mobile only products only in corporate stores just makes sense for the business and for customers
    I know TMS, I know how they wrk, and their reputation.I get constant complaints from customers(not my customers) and CS agents alike about TMS..even had a canse of Identity theft.. an employee used customers social to get 3 lines and had been using it for quite some time when she just went to do a credit check...

    Now u say it makes sense to sell t-mo products at tmo stores only...whn we..not only I but all the indirect delears.probly make more thn 60-70% of total tmo sales... and Most of Us give better experience to customers than a corporate store...I could get you atleast 50 of my customers who came to my store sayin that the corporate stores were not only rude but unhelpfull.. ohh and i fgt. they did happen to mention that we trick customers by selling them used and refurbished phones... I had got that in recording.. since i was secret shopping/or spying arround...and ofcourse all tht store did was write a letter to tmobile hq? wtf? whts it gotta do with hq?
    Oh well I guess T-mo wants to be a lil baby and not share...thts fine.. i can make my quota by selling the 08 anytime...
  20. The reasoning for T-Mobile's Decision is more simple than you think and I'm a bit shocked the couple people here that claim to be my co-workers didn't even know
    The G1 with it being such an internet based phone was meant for the purpose of 3G being the Maps, E-Mail, Amazon Music, YouTube, GPS & Streetview all run allot faster with the services, Now When Apple released the Iphone 3G there was allot of complaints and pending suits over the fact of False advertising when they told everybody that it went faster and ignorant individuals with sue happy instincts went for there reperations. T-Mobile saw the possibility of this same scenario so they placed demo models in every store and only stock the store shelves in 3G markets, this prevents and customers being under misguided information that the phone will always run at 3G data speeeds when they have it available to play with in store and if outside of the 3G market they can test the internet speed and see if it is to their liking before they order.

    So you ask, well cant they test it and at least have it there in store if they like it? Ahh that would be nice but did you know everytime a customer is transfered from one dept to another when calling 611 it cost's T-Mobile $5.00? In our new effort to "Fit the Customer" we know how likely those retail reps would be to hand those phones off to anyone who likes the look reguardless if the customer potentially should have the phone or not if the commision is good enough, so one more effort to prevent a high call volume "Magenta Flag" and long wait times it's best that the wrong people dont get to the phone.. belive me it happens A 60yr old lady with a basic no camera Nokia happens to like a BB Pearl and decides to upgrade and every day its a call about how awful the phone is later accusing the service when we find its all user error, It happens more than you would think.
    So in effort to prevent the bad feedback from customers who think they are going to be getting all these "High Speed" data connections in regular Edge markets we just want them to be fully aware of the facts before we ship the phone, as you markets become 3G the G1's will be shipping to those stores.
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