yep.. confirmed no audio 3.5mm jack

**divestoclimb** · 09-23-2008, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by MrGibbage

Yeah, this is directly out of the Apple playbook. All of the ipods are USB but use a special cable. How sad and senseless.

At least the Apple connector can do SO much more than just USB since it can interface with FM transmitters and stereos for A/V output and remote control. I somehow doubt this connector can do anything other than USB and audio.

IANAE (I Am Not An Engineer) but they probably didn't include a 3.5mm jack because they either didn't have the space internally for it or the connection would have been too noisy with all RF. Still sucks though--I had a Motorola phone that was like this and the only 3.5mm dongles available were line-out adapters with no volume control.

**mZimm** · 09-23-2008, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by evilpaintball311

wait so is it like smaller than a normal headphone jack? If so would my adapter from my nokia 5300 work on it?

No, you need something to convert the mini-USB port to the audio, I think only HTC phones use them.

**mZimm** · 09-23-2008, 02:07 PM

Just to clear this up, I just posted this in the other thread about Negatives about the phone, but on every HTC phone that I have had it has been possible to charge and transfer data to the PC using a normal generic mini-USB cable. The only thing that the proprietary connection enables is the audio transfer.

**evilpaintball311** · 09-23-2008, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by mZimm

No, you need something to convert the mini-USB port to the audio, I think only HTC phones use them.

so you have to use one of those little connectors like the moto sliver?!

**mZimm** · 09-23-2008, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by evilpaintball311

so you have to use one of those little connectors like the moto sliver?!

I have not seen the converter for the moto phones, but all of the converters I have seen have looked like this:

**MrAndroidson** · 09-23-2008, 02:15 PM

a quick search yielded this for older HTC phones:

I HOPE it's not that... lol

**MrGibbage** · 09-23-2008, 02:18 PM

And this video, at the 5:00 point, he says "a simple USB cable to connect to a PC". Too bad he didn't say "any regular USB cable", but "a simple USB cable" does sound promising. Although, HTC may consider their cable "simple".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POI1n...p?t=642&page=2

**mZimm** · 09-23-2008, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by MrAndroidson

a quick search yielded this for older HTC phones:
I HOPE it's not that... lol

Yeah, most of them aren't that bad, anything with the proprietary mini-USB on one side and the 3.5mm on the other is going to work. You can get them on ebay very cheap, but generally very cheap quality as well.

**DeoreDX** · 09-23-2008, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by mZimm

Just to clear this up, I just posted this in the other thread about Negatives about the phone, but on every HTC phone that I have had it has been possible to charge and transfer data to the PC using a normal generic mini-USB cable. The only thing that the proprietary connection enables is the audio transfer.

His reply in the other thread was to my post about the negative, and I did research to double check and yet the ExtUSB port can accept a standard mini USB cable.