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    Default Newbie needs help!


    Hello,
    Thank you for being here! I will try not to ask questions that have been asked and answered. If I do, pls point me in the direction of the answers so that I don't waste space or anyone's time.

    I've had my G1 for about 6 weeks. I like it but...I am having some problems and the solutions I've been given don't work.

    First- I was told that if I switched my email from comcast to gmail, I could delete it on my G1. Well, that isn't true and from what I've read, everyone has this problem. I'm NOT happy about that. My current space on my phone is 25.80 MB. I like apps, what can I say? But even though I have a 4 GB SD card, I have 3.18 or something like that, left on my SD card because pretty much NOTHING loads there. How useful is that? You can get decent sized SD cards but pretty much everything that takes up space, ie. apps, and such, stays in your phone memory, not on the SD card.
    Second- Everytime I try to download a video, Flash player, or pretty much anything that others tell me I can do, my phone refuses to do it. I have been wanting to watch movies on my G1 and researched and researched and spoke to 'experts' etc. Everyone says they don't know why I can't do it. I have downloaded several 'top' video players from the Market and yet when I try to play even just a video, 4pg or 3pg, I get a message saying it cannot be played or the file was corrupted. I've tried numerous different videos, movies, etc, to no avail. The ONLY video that I can play on my G1 is the video I took of a friend in the hospital after she had her baby. I was FINALLY able to download a video/movie to my SD card, but then the 'excellent' video player app, that was recommended to use, STILL couldn't play the video! I tried all 3 video players that were highly recommended and not one of them will play a video/movie from my SD card!
    Third- I tried today to attach a pic to an outgoing email and the phone made me put the email in draft to go pic the picture. I did that and attached it, but it didn't do anything. So I went to drafts to see if I could retrieve the email and try again. It wasn't there! I checked all the folders to see if it got put in the wrong email folder. Nope! Not there either. So, how was I supposed to attach a pic? Did I do it wrong or is it just another thing that the G1 is SUPPOSED to do and doesn't?
    Right now I'm wondering why I spent so much money to buy a phone that supposedly has so many wonderful things it can do, yet I cannot find ONE person who can tell me HOW to do it successfully, or WHY I cannot do any of these things I want to do and SO many others say they CAN do with this phone.
    I'm sorry if I sound angry or agitated. It's because I am. I have been trying to do this stuff for over a month and I can't find anyone to help me!
    I read of all the cool things this phone does or can do in the hands of someone knowledgeable, and I don't see why I can't do them. Do you have to be a computer genious? I have a high IQ, but I am not able to figure out what the problem is and there is SO much information out there, and SO many different opinions, that I am completely confused.
    Which brings me to your community......Can someone PLEASE help me?

    Thank you all so much for being here. I know that there are many knowledgeable people here. I just need ONE who is willing to help me figure out these problems.

    Suzi

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    1. What do you mean you cant delete them? Memory- Its called "Rooting (gaining superuser/root access to your phone)" it will allow all of you apps and data cache to go straight to your SD card to save much space as-well-as allow all sorts of other goodies (i.e more home screens, landscape orientation without opening phone etc.)
    2.It should play in 3gp, do you have a videos folder on your SD to put them into or are they just in the root of the SD? That should deff work if not dunno what to say
    3.For the email I hit compose enter and email address, enter subject, attach and type body..works fine for me

    hope this helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzi View Post
    Hello,
    Thank you for being here! I will try not to ask questions that have been asked and answered. If I do, pls point me in the direction of the answers so that I don't waste space or anyone's time.

    I've had my G1 for about 6 weeks. I like it but...I am having some problems and the solutions I've been given don't work.

    First- I was told that if I switched my email from comcast to gmail, I could delete it on my G1. Well, that isn't true and from what I've read, everyone has this problem. I'm NOT happy about that. My current space on my phone is 25.80 MB. I like apps, what can I say? But even though I have a 4 GB SD card, I have 3.18 or something like that, left on my SD card because pretty much NOTHING loads there. How useful is that? You can get decent sized SD cards but pretty much everything that takes up space, ie. apps, and such, stays in your phone memory, not on the SD card.
    Second- Everytime I try to download a video, Flash player, or pretty much anything that others tell me I can do, my phone refuses to do it. I have been wanting to watch movies on my G1 and researched and researched and spoke to 'experts' etc. Everyone says they don't know why I can't do it. I have downloaded several 'top' video players from the Market and yet when I try to play even just a video, 4pg or 3pg, I get a message saying it cannot be played or the file was corrupted. I've tried numerous different videos, movies, etc, to no avail. The ONLY video that I can play on my G1 is the video I took of a friend in the hospital after she had her baby. I was FINALLY able to download a video/movie to my SD card, but then the 'excellent' video player app, that was recommended to use, STILL couldn't play the video! I tried all 3 video players that were highly recommended and not one of them will play a video/movie from my SD card!
    Third- I tried today to attach a pic to an outgoing email and the phone made me put the email in draft to go pic the picture. I did that and attached it, but it didn't do anything. So I went to drafts to see if I could retrieve the email and try again. It wasn't there! I checked all the folders to see if it got put in the wrong email folder. Nope! Not there either. So, how was I supposed to attach a pic? Did I do it wrong or is it just another thing that the G1 is SUPPOSED to do and doesn't?
    Right now I'm wondering why I spent so much money to buy a phone that supposedly has so many wonderful things it can do, yet I cannot find ONE person who can tell me HOW to do it successfully, or WHY I cannot do any of these things I want to do and SO many others say they CAN do with this phone.
    I'm sorry if I sound angry or agitated. It's because I am. I have been trying to do this stuff for over a month and I can't find anyone to help me!
    I read of all the cool things this phone does or can do in the hands of someone knowledgeable, and I don't see why I can't do them. Do you have to be a computer genious? I have a high IQ, but I am not able to figure out what the problem is and there is SO much information out there, and SO many different opinions, that I am completely confused.
    Which brings me to your community......Can someone PLEASE help me?

    Thank you all so much for being here. I know that there are many knowledgeable people here. I just need ONE who is willing to help me figure out these problems.

    Suzi
    1 . i have no problem deleting stuff from my gmail app . just press delete .
    2.download "download crutch" from tyhe market . it will let you download most everything from online . there is no flash on the g1 yet , so no flash player . also make sure vids are in the proper size and format (usually the same as for the ipod and iphone)
    3.i attach pics , music , vids , apps , other files no problem .


    if you want more space on the phone then root it and do apps2sd . there is a good link in my signature to root your phone

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    Default Re: Newbie needs help!

    Hi,
    I'm no techie, but I do read tech updates. Here's one that might answer some of your questions. Not the best answers yet, but at least there's news on some of the issues/shortcomings.

    http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/...t-december-11/

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    The email delete problem ONLY applies to the standard Mail app, NOT the GMail app. If you use GMail for all your mail (you can get it to pull and optionally delete all the emails from any POP3 account) then it'll be just fine.

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    Thank you to those who posted. I will try what was suggested. However, I would first like to address something I find a bit disturbing in the reply posts:

    I know I am a newbie, however, to imply that I do not know how to delete my email, as several of you did, is insulting. I am not THAT much of a newbie and even if I was, I would surely know how to delete email!
    The fact remains that I DO have a problem with my gmail NOT deleting. It does NOT delete from my trash folder, plain and simple. You see, I go to the the Trash folder and go to a message and hit 'delete' and then I go back to the Trash folder and it is still there! Just because your's is working does not mean that I am an idiot. And yes, I've tried shutting the phone down and restarting it too and the message I tried to delete is still there.

    If you truely want to help, then try to. If you don't know how to help, say so, but don't insult the person asking for help. It is unproductive and just plain mean.

    As for trying to download 'download crutch' as suggested: I can open Market, but it won't let me go to any page now. It says there is an error. My internet access on this phone has been running VERY slow and I have been getting a ton of error messages. Do you think this is my internet service or my phone? I get a 'network error has occurred' message. To me, this seems like my internet service provider, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

    Is it possible my phone is a 'dud'? I have already spoken with T-mobile and gone through a number of processes and nothing has helped me with these problems. I haven't yet tried a system reset. Do you think I should do that?

    As for rooting, I would like to try that, but I don't know how advisable it is right now because of the issues I am having with my phone not working properly.

    And again, if none of you can/will help me, where do I get help? T-mobile says to ask the developers of the apps, everytime I call them. But since the problem occurs with any app I use regarding the movie/video thing and apparently the email thing, it doesn't appear its an application error, but a phone error.

    Thank you,
    Suzi

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    No one was trying to insult you. They tried to answer your question, you took it the wrong way.

    Anyway, when you delete an email, gmail automatically sends it to your trash folder. It stays there for 30 days before ot gets deleted from your account.

    As for movies, try .mp4 files.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzi View Post
    Thank you to those who posted. I will try what was suggested. However, I would first like to address something I find a bit disturbing in the reply posts:
    You're welcome - we only try to help.
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzi View Post
    I know I am a newbie, however, to imply that I do not know how to delete my email, as several of you did, is insulting.
    I don't think any of us did imply that. I'm sorry if I personally did.

    You have to understand that there is an email deletion problem that is an extremely well known problem on Android - that being that the standard email app doesn't delete emails off the server. A whole load of people who come here after getting their phone complain about this, and we respond to such a question frequently.

    It was that knowledge that is what the people who responded tried to pass on to you, as it seemed to match the problem in the way you described it.

    If you didn't know this fact, then I can see why some of the responses might have come across as condescending, but I'm sure this was not anybody's intention.
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzi View Post
    The fact remains that I DO have a problem with my gmail NOT deleting. It does NOT delete from my trash folder, plain and simple. You see, I go to the the Trash folder and go to a message and hit 'delete' and then I go back to the Trash folder and it is still there! Just because your's is working does not mean that I am an idiot.
    But that's a different problem. "Deleting" an email, just like deleting a file in Windows, does not delete it. This has been the de facto standard for email for decades, and nearly as long for files.

    Deleting an email sends it to the trash or bin folder. Exactly the same happens on the GMail application. So, deleting an email from the Trash using the GMail app simply makes it invisible on the phone (actually this depends on some things) but as far as the GMail server is concerned you just moved it back to the Trash folder, and that's why it's still there.

    Deleting an email from the trash folder using the GMail app is not the same as going to the Google Mail website (which is much more advanced) and clicking the "Delete forever" link.
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzi View Post
    If you truely want to help, then try to. If you don't know how to help, say so, but don't insult the person asking for help. It is unproductive and just plain mean.
    I've just re-read all of the replies. I originally took every comment to be helpful, and I still do. While I can see that some comments might be construed as patronising, the fact is they're not - you're just taking them out of context. For example "just press delete" might seem like they're taking the piss, but it was meant as "what I do is just press delete", because that's what they do. However, because you haven't described the deletion problem very well we've all answered the wrong question.

    So, to prevent this happening when we take the time to try and help you next time, can you please clarify what the problem is...

    Is it that you can't delete mails on your GMail app on your phone (i.e. deleting them from you Inbox) does nothing?

    Is it that you can't empty your trash (i.e. deleting emails permanently from your trash folder so you never see them ever again anywhere, using your phone)?

    Is it that you've set up GMail on the website to pull your emails from you Comcast email, but when you check your Comcast email (on their webmail or Outlook Express or however you used to do it), the emails are still there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Suzi View Post
    Do you think this is my internet service or my phone? I get a 'network error has occurred' message. To me, this seems like my internet service provider, but I thought I'd ask anyway.
    It sounds like you have a poor internet connection. Are you using the mobile network's data connection (e.g. GPRS, 3G, HSDPA, Edge) or are you connecting to your own internet connection through WiFi?
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzi View Post
    Is it possible my phone is a 'dud'? I have already spoken with T-mobile and gone through a number of processes and nothing has helped me with these problems. I haven't yet tried a system reset. Do you think I should do that?
    These errors sometimes happen. The fact that it has worked before implies it's not a dud, and just a network connection issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzi View Post
    As for rooting, I would like to try that, but I don't know how advisable it is right now because of the issues I am having with my phone not working properly.
    There is absolutely no need for you to root right now, and if you're a novice with the phone I'd highly advise waiting. It's important to note that rooting does technically void your warranty, and there's a risk (small) that if it messes up it will render your phone completely unresponsive and useless.

    The main advantage to rooting is that you can install your applications on your SD card, thus you can have more than 100 or so applications installed on your phone which normally isn't possible. The other reason is that you can increase the volume more than is normally possible - some people find the ringtones a little quiet.

    Absolutely every other reason I've ever seen for rooting is either only needed if you really want to do some crazy stuff on your phone (the vast majority of people don't), or if you immediately want some of the bleeding edge stuff that Google have added to unreleased future versions of Android - which are of course unfinished and untested. I can find apps that achieve the vast majority of what rooting achieves (multiple desktops, tethering, etc).
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzi View Post
    And again, if none of you can/will help me, where do I get help?
    Make a list of what problems you're still having and we'll try to help. I'm kinda lost as to what we've fixed/not fixed for you.

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    extorian , youre always such the gentleman

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    Oh nooos, I'm getting a reputation.

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