Android 2.0 on G1?

[embrace LB]

*claps hands* well said havikx, well said.

[extorian]

The sdk is 9mb larger than donut was. Great. There is also a lot of nonsense on it that we don't need. 2.0 has software to make the flash on the droid work. My g1 doesn't have a flash. And that's definatley isn't coming in an update. The sdk has a lot of stuff on it so it'll work with everything they need it to... a droid with flash, a netbook, or a homephone. I'm sure they will take what they need from it.... cut the bs we don't need on the g1... and it'll fit.

But you're missing the point and comparing the SDK's Emulator release to the phone release of Android. That's not what we're talking about. What we're talking about is that when cupcake came about, the difference in size between the Emulator version of the ROM from 1.1 to 1.5 was around the same increase in size as what the phone ROM had. Similarly, when 1.6 came around, the increase in size that the Emulator ROM had was again comparable to the amount of size the phone ROMs increased. So, people are happy to suspect that the increase in size of the Emulator ROM between 1.6 and 2.0 will be similar to the increase in size of the phone ROMs when they're released.

Sure - you can remove a load of unnecessary stuff from the Emulator ROM if you were going to put that on a phone, but that stuff has, for the most part, already been removed in all of the Emulator versus Phone ROMs. The bottom line is that there's some 9MB of new code to fit into around 300K of space. I imagine removing unnecessary stuff from the new code (e.g. camera flash support, large screen support, etc) would shave a couple of MB off that, but you still have a big problem and Google will have to shrink their new code by a factor of 20 to fit it on the G1 as it currently stands. They already worked some miracle to get 1.6 on the G1, but whatever that trick was it has already been used.

For the guy who said they couldn't mod the spl ota.... dude... this is google. They can make a nice block of cheddar run @ 3g speeds. They have ways. If they don't... they'll invent ways.

You missed the point here too. No OTA update can ever update the SPL on the G1. The problem here is that the only way to update the SPL is to boot the phone into recovery mode and installing the new SPL with various key pressed. As such, this is a manual procedure for which will always require user intervention.

Plus....even if they pushed an ota update modding the spl to make 2.0 fit... no1 here would care about losing info on their phone. I'm sure you'd sit and take it just to get 2.0. Plus... aren't your contacts and apps stored on google servers as well? So... its not like it'd be crazy hard to get that stuff back. I've flashed my phone more times than I've had g/fs this yr. No big deal.

I'm sorry, but you're completely wrong here.

I for one am here and would certainly care if I woke up one morning to find all my apps had gone, all my settings had gone, all my shortcuts, icons and backgrounds had gone, all my high scores had gone, all my saved data in all of my apps had gone, all my bookmarks, cookies, saved passwords, site preferences in the browser had gone, all the notes I'd made in notepad, my shopping list in OI Shopping List, etc. and having to remember which apps I had and spend ages downloading them and setting them all up how I used to have it. I think most people would care, and I imagine that the other 99% of G1 users who don't use this forum would care even more.

[weven123]

well said extorian
i dont see what evry1 is so worked up bout to be honest i couldnt wait for donut but im sure every1 will agree that the novelty of a new os fades so quickly that if the g1 is missed off the 2.0 update or forgotten about completely its not going to be a huge loss so we dont get a few extra aps support for the device wont disapear completely and people will come up with ways of running new features on old systems they always do. id be lying if i said i didnt want android 2.0 but if i dont get it then ill work around it wether that be waiting for a new phone or waiting for some genious somewhere to work out a way of making it fit

[ldjs123]

Are there any instructions available about how to accomplish this (upgrade via flash as opposed to OTA, specific to 2.0 on G1)?

Thanks.

[extorian]

2.0 isn't available on the G1 yet. It's only available for the Motorola Droid.

Unless one of the custom firmwares has it... what's Cyanogen on these days?

[Hands0n]

... what's Cyanogen on these days?

Taken from my G1

Firmware version 1.6
Mod version CyanogenMod-4.2.5
Build number DRC83
Kernel version 2.6.29.6-cm42
Baseband version 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I

[InsightGoalie]

Taken from my G1

Firmware version 1.6
Mod version CyanogenMod-4.2.5
Build number DRC83
Kernel version 2.6.29.6-cm42
Baseband version 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I

He is slowly adding in some 2.0 stuff though I've noticed. His changelogs explain what he is doing. I'm sure an experimental version of 2.0 will come from him in not too long.

[Hands0n]

Yea, I'm following all of his 'stable' releases on my G1. I quite like 4.2.5, it is very fast and has a nice look and feel to it.

[paul roberts]

He's waiting on drivers to be released for things like the camera

[extorian]

There are also other concerns. By far the most commonly used version is 1.6. There are still many developers that have not made their apps 2.0 compatible. Moving to 2.0 at this time may be a bad move in terms of apps.