important info about your internal memory and market memory usage

[juice]

Originally Posted by outsider

When you run low on space it clears out the market cache.

No it doesn't.
I can't tell you how many times in the past week I've had a 'Low disk space' message. My market has yet to clean itself out.

[rynosaur]

Originally Posted by juice

No it doesn't.
I can't tell you how many times in the past week I've had a 'Low disk space' message. My market has yet to clean itself out.

Did you push your internal memory to 0mb? Sounds like dude ran his out, rebooted, then his stuff automagically cleaned up.

[juice]

Originally Posted by rynosaur

Did you push your internal memory to 0mb? Sounds like dude ran his out, rebooted, then his stuff automagically cleaned up.

Yeah, that's the thing. I have yet to run out of space.
You know guys, there is a difference between running low and running out.


I'll probably just do a factory reset soon.

[daveid]

seriously, I ran mine to 0MB last night, and it cleared the market cache just like that (once I rebooted). Didn't have to restore any settings, contact ringtones (I hated that when I factory restored), or anything else.

[djkdawg]

this is BS, i deleted every app on my phone and my market size is 21mb, it does take up internal space.

Originally Posted by shaky777

ok, i was really worry about the small internal memory that G1 comes with(256mb) and we only get to use 71mb for applications or anything that's have to be storage in the internal memory, on top of my apps memory usage i have the market app taking an additional 9mb . i was down to 29mb, so i called tmobile, they don't know anything on how to deal with this. so i did this:

first factory reset: after factory reset i got 71mb left(internal memory)

check my market app usage: 0kb
sign up for the market: 72kb
accessed to market: 320kb
downloaded shop savvy: 492kb
uninstalled shop savvy: 492kb
accessed compare everywhere: 500kb
installed compare everywhere: 500kb
uninstalled compare everywhere: 500kb
reinstalled compare everywhere: 508kb
left the market and accessed it again with download anything: 608kb
accessed the games by date without download anything: 760kb
accessed the games by popularity without download anything: 796kb
accessed web cam viewer : 804kb
installed web cam viewer : 804kb
accessed park mark: 836kb
installed park mark: 836kb
accessed ring control: 988kb
installed ring control: 988kb
then i went and look back into ring control and the market memory went all the way up to 2mb of market memory usage. so i went and did a second factory reset.


second factory reset: after factory reset i got 71mb left(internal memory)

after it came back on it automatically downloaded 3 of the 4 applications (weird) that i previously downloaded without accessing the market: 12kb
accessed the market:104kb
accessed the market apps: 208kb
accessed the market apps by popularity: 308kb
accessed the market apps by date: 352kb
then got out of the market and went back to all apps: 424kb
accessed the market games: 428kb
accessed the market games by date: 580kb
accessed the market games by popularity: 624kb
then got out of market games and went back to all apps: 624kb
accessed shop savvy: 632kb
installed shop savvy: 632kb
accessed compare everywhere: 640
installed compare everywhere: 640kb
went back to shop savvy( in all apps): 640kb
then went ahead and installed 24 apps without leaving the market, after all of them were installed: 4mb of market memory usage (58mb left from internal memory), then i went and did a third factory reset

third factory reset: after factory reset i got 71mb left(internal memory)

turn the phone on: it didn't automatically download anything
market memory usage: 0kb
accessed the market: 192kb
accessed the market all apps by date and popularity: 388kb
accessed the market my downloads: 876kb
downloaded from my download history park mark: 1004kb
then from my download history(without leaving this page) i download all the previous 24 apps: market total memory usage 2mb(60mb internal memory left)

bottom line the market application does eat your internal memory(some people said is virtual memory, is not) also every time we access an application in the market it will take from your internal memory, because it will add to the market application memory usage. so avoid looking at applications that look useless(like looking at the ratings first, i know that's hard to do, but that will make developers create better apps cuz if this stays like thit and they don't fix it, we won't be able to even take a look into the apps to avoid losing memory. also if you can and your are not going to lose any important info or if you can back up what you have in your phone, just do a factory reset and then go to your downloads history and download all your apps again without going in and out of the market, before i did this i had 29mb left of internal memory now i have 60mb and the market memory usage was 9mb now is 2mb. i also didn't installed some of the useless apps that i had before, but now i feel a lot better....



update:


i just reset my phone again just to double check, this is what you need to do:

1. make a list of the apps that you have already installed(apps are gonna be listed in your download history anyway, but just in case)
2. proceed to factory reset
3. go the the market>mydownloads>install all your apps again(but do it from your downloads history, that way you save some data usage)

my results:

a. 31 apps installed
b. market data usage 2mb(use to be 9mb the first time)
c. internal memory left 60mb(use to be 29mb left)

[outsider]

Originally Posted by juice

No it doesn't.
I can't tell you how many times in the past week I've had a 'Low disk space' message. My market has yet to clean itself out.

Yes it does. If it doesn't do it for you you have the magical G1 that doesn't do what everyone else's phone does.

http://www.google.com/support/forum/...c8cf5448&hl=en

[shaky777]

Originally Posted by djkdawg

this is BS, i deleted every app on my phone and my market size is 21mb, it does take up internal space.

you don't have to delete every app one by one, just do a factory reset...

[dwang]

At least google is working on the ability to install apps on the sdcard.


http://www.gotontheinter.net/content...upcake-sources

And for those that have a jailbroken (rooted) rc30 g1, there's already a hack available that allows you to install and run apps from the sdcard.

I know it works because I was able to hack my g1 to do this.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462882

[nxtiak]

You think your Market data usage is bad...
I have 54 apps installed, my last system reset was like a month ago.
Guess how big my Market data is....... 23 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[webrun]

I just did a factory reset to recoup memory hogged by the Market. Here is a tip to save some time in getting the phone back to where you had it before the reset:

If you don't have the Astro application, download it, and back up all your applications to your SD card with it. Then after you do your factory reset, you first download the Astro ap from the Market, then using it, go to the SD card and start re-installing your aps, one by one -- still, it is quite a lot faster than finding them and re-installing one at a time from the Market. You must first go into settings and check the box allowing "non-market applications". This is a real time-saver, and besides, after Jan 1, you will be able to do this and save applications that cost $ onto your SD card for re-installation.