rc30 and root access!

**LGSilva** · 11-08-2008, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Stericson

Lg, so even after doing this before you received the update your root command no longer works in terminal emulator?

That's right. Now some commands even get me access denied. Well... it was fun

**Stanovoy** · 11-08-2008, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by LGSilva

That's right. Now some commands even get me access denied. Well... it was fun

Muahahahaha, you fools! You thought you can outwit the Apple... I mean Google Gods? Muahahahahaha!

**Stericson** · 11-08-2008, 02:53 PM

lol....we will, I refuse to accept the update and have disabled my phone, hopefully, from receiving any updates. Even if that fails I have an idea or two about how to go about stopping the update process.

**LGSilva** · 11-08-2008, 03:14 PM

So the thing I did before, what did it do?
"cat sh > root
chmod 4755 root"

**Stericson** · 11-08-2008, 03:37 PM

it gave you a shell operating a root level, however, when rc30 updates your phone it comes complete with a new recovery and boot img. So the update wipes out /dev/system and replaces it with the new one, which inadvertently wipes out your root shell command. The guys over a xda are working on a modified update that will allow us to keep a root shell.

I know of two users that have bricked their phone already by working on this. I also know of a user who's phone was bricked by the update, so watch out.

**Dimath** · 11-08-2008, 04:21 PM

Ridiculous.

Right now I have RC29 and normal su command wich check the root password from /etc/passwd file and many others useful stuff. Don't want to lose it all! "Say NO to RC30."

Does anybody know what servise sould be killed to turn off the update notifications? It's annoying.

Besides... What exactly does update do? Stericson said it reformats the whoole system (i gues /system is meaned?). This way your 'root' file in the /system/bin would be lost, indeed

What if you store it somewhere else? Like /data/local, that would be my suggestion. Or any other place where you it would be safe from google and you can access it later. (DONT store it in the memory card since it mounted the way you can not run the anything from it). So, who is the next victim to try it?

Loosing all system modifications with the updates is wery sad, but loosing the root access is drammatic.

Waiting for some one to actually test this method or to explain in details what updates do...

PS: No point to store the 'root' file (renamed shell with root privileges) to /data/... cause it's mounted with nosuid option. Sorry for that.

**enash99** · 11-08-2008, 07:57 PM

is there a way to back up RC29. So if we get an RC30 patch we can roll back? Or a way to do a system image. Similar to a ghost image and then be able to do a block per block re-write back to the phone to erase the rc30 update?

**Dimath** · 11-08-2008, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by Stericson

Unfortunately, it seems that google reformats the system after every update
.....
mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
cd system/bin
cat sh > root
chmod 4755 root

Wouldn't it be lost after reformatting the system?

**Stericson** · 11-09-2008, 01:16 AM

We can still have root access and rc30, however, it will cost you some time and work on your part. The guys over at XDA have figured it out and I am running rc30 with root access as I write this. Here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443713

You better hurry though, because once you get rc30 your out of luck.
Also, it should be made known that once you do this, you will have to manually install every update thereafter.

Stericson