Regain root access of your G1 with leaked RC29 firmware

[birdman81484]

Some things you can do with root:

• Delete or replace official Google applications you don't want (e.g., lose Amazon stuff, update browser, use K9 instead of Mail, etc.)
• Customize UI by adding behavior (auto-rotate to the browser, for example) or radical new themes (already in development) to enhance the look and feel of your phone
• Tweak Android settings to let you do things you would otherwise not be able to do (such as get high-quality YouTube... or do SIP/iax2 VOIP... over your g3 connection)
• Access parts of the phone (dialer, microphone, gtalk service, etc.) in ways that are either restricted or there is no API for yet to enhance phone's functionality.
• Add full support for apps inside Android written in other languages besides Android's Java-like VM (ie, Flash, Mono, Python, C, etc.)
• Install non-official variants of Android such as the new Cupcake release
• Support non-official capabilities of the G1 (multi-touch? Voice distorter? etc.)
• Add more unix tools (such as full busybox prompt), windowing systems (such as X11) or unix programs programs, potentially adding tens of thousands of new applications.
• Replace OS entirely with Debian or something else.
• Overclock (?) or otherwise alter default behavior at CPU level
• Add enhanced "full" backup & recovery of the entire phone

etc. etc.

W

Exactly. Now we need tutorials for all these things in one organized place.....

[Kha_]

Some things you can do with root:

• Delete or replace official Google applications you don't want (e.g., lose Amazon stuff, update browser, use K9 instead of Mail, etc.)
• Customize UI by adding behavior (auto-rotate to the browser, for example) or radical new themes (already in development) to enhance the look and feel of your phone
• Tweak Android settings to let you do things you would otherwise not be able to do (such as get high-quality YouTube... or do SIP/iax2 VOIP... over your g3 connection)
• Access parts of the phone (dialer, microphone, gtalk service, etc.) in ways that are either restricted or there is no API for yet to enhance phone's functionality.
• Add full support for apps inside Android written in other languages besides Android's Java-like VM (ie, Flash, Mono, Python, C, etc.)
• Install non-official variants of Android such as the new Cupcake release
• Support non-official capabilities of the G1 (multi-touch? Voice distorter? etc.)
• Add more unix tools (such as full busybox prompt), windowing systems (such as X11) or unix programs programs, potentially adding tens of thousands of new applications.
• Replace OS entirely with Debian or something else.
• Overclock (?) or otherwise alter default behavior at CPU level
• Add enhanced "full" backup & recovery of the entire phone

etc. etc.

W

Is there a guide to adding all these features after rooting your device? I've found walkthroughs for rooting and it seems straightforward enough, but for newbies like me I have no idea how to go about adding these features after rooting.

[DesignDawg]

It's Linux. To teach everything you could do with root would be to try to type out every possible Linux command and argument for people to try to peck out verbatim.

[mlevin]

Once you do that, you can't get the OTA updates anymore, right?

If you have the "legit" developer phone, can you do OTA updates without losing root?

If you go the root route (sorry, couldn't resist) and you want to go back to "legit" updates (losing root), is that possible?

[DesignDawg]

Once you do that, you can't get the OTA updates anymore, right?

If you have the "legit" developer phone, can you do OTA updates without losing root?

If you go the root route (sorry, couldn't resist) and you want to go back to "legit" updates (losing root), is that possible?

Welll.... If you go back to RC29, you'll have root, but it'll start bugging you about RC30 soon, which will take it right back away. What going back to RC 29 will allow you to do is get root and use it to go to MODIFIED RC30. Once you've done this, you won't receive OTAs anymore. You'll have to do them manually. You will either be able to put the OTA on there manually when it comes out, and lose root again, or wait until it gets modified, so you can preserve root and get the new features.

OR... You can put the engineering bootloader on there, and it won't really matter if you have root or not when it comes to updates, because you'll ALWAYS be able to get it back, no matter what, because you can flash anything you want, whether you have root or not.

Confusing?

[goodfellabk718]

Welll.... If you go back to RC29, you'll have root, but it'll start bugging you about RC30 soon, which will take it right back away. What going back to RC 29 will allow you to do is get root and use it to go to MODIFIED RC30. Once you've done this, you won't receive OTAs anymore. You'll have to do them manually. You will either be able to put the OTA on there manually when it comes out, and lose root again, or wait until it gets modified, so you can preserve root and get the new features.

OR... You can put the engineering bootloader on there, and it won't really matter if you have root or not when it comes to updates, because you'll ALWAYS be able to get it back, no matter what, because you can flash anything you want, whether you have root or not.

Confusing?

.....ponders....

[Reeg]

What exactly can I do with root access? I'm still trying to figure this out.

[Queue29]

What exactly can I do with root access? I'm still trying to figure this out.

Originally Posted by VValdo
Some things you can do with root:

• Delete or replace official Google applications you don't want (e.g., lose Amazon stuff, update browser, use K9 instead of Mail, etc.)
• Customize UI by adding behavior (auto-rotate to the browser, for example) or radical new themes (already in development) to enhance the look and feel of your phone
• Tweak Android settings to let you do things you would otherwise not be able to do (such as get high-quality YouTube... or do SIP/iax2 VOIP... over your g3 connection)
• Access parts of the phone (dialer, microphone, gtalk service, etc.) in ways that are either restricted or there is no API for yet to enhance phone's functionality.
• Add full support for apps inside Android written in other languages besides Android's Java-like VM (ie, Flash, Mono, Python, C, etc.)
• Install non-official variants of Android such as the new Cupcake release
• Support non-official capabilities of the G1 (multi-touch? Voice distorter? etc.)
• Add more unix tools (such as full busybox prompt), windowing systems (such as X11) or unix programs programs, potentially adding tens of thousands of new applications.
• Replace OS entirely with Debian or something else.
• Overclock (?) or otherwise alter default behavior at CPU level
• Add enhanced "full" backup & recovery of the entire phone

etc. etc.

W

If you don't know what root is, or what you can do with it, you don't need it.

[VValdo]

Is there a guide to adding all these features after rooting your device? I've found walkthroughs for rooting and it seems straightforward enough, but for newbies like me I have no idea how to go about adding these features after rooting.

Some of these features aren't "realized" yet. Root only makes them possible, but since root is only now available for many people, there hasn't been a lot of time to mess with it.

That said, already there are theming HOW-TOs and instructions for installing cupcake, as well as how to tether (which is basically using your phone as a modem to "pass through" your phone's internet to a laptop), turn on auto-rotate, prevent T-Mobile from auto-"upgrading" the phone, install Debian Linux, install and run apps off your SD-Card, etc.

Now that root is available to many more people, I expect to see more sophisticated and user-friendly applications, modifications, etc. to appear.

W

[birdman81484]

Some of these features aren't "realized" yet. Root only makes them possible, but since root is only now available for many people, there hasn't been a lot of time to mess with it.

That said, already there are theming HOW-TOs and instructions for installing cupcake, as well as how to tether (which is basically using your phone as a modem to "pass through" your phone's internet to a laptop), turn on auto-rotate, prevent T-Mobile from auto-"upgrading" the phone, install Debian Linux, install and run apps off your SD-Card, etc.

Now that root is available to many more people, I expect to see more sophisticated and user-friendly applications, modifications, etc. to appear.

W

In regards to the huge bold link above: With JC rc30 v1.3 that link is not necessary to follow. Right?