Reliability of payed apps...

[AndroidUser]

There has been mixed thoughts on the current apps in the market.

Some are happy that we get free apps that help us out..

On the other hand there's been the mention of "crap apps"...

Now i tried looking for an answer to this question on here but could not find it.

But how are we to go about the apps that charge in 09?

What if they release apps that always fore close or don't work with an update?

What if they are in another language?

if we're paying money? then what?

Do you guys believe that the android market is reliable? or do you think it has a lot of loose ends to tie?

[pinaytoy]

what if we have to send our phone in and get a new one. will we be able to just download the app we had previously purchased? hopefully each dev will have a registration and website to support a re-download to a new device if needed.

[AndroidUser]

what if we have to send our phone in and get a new one. will we be able to just download the app we had previously purchased? hopefully each dev will have a registration and website to support a re-download to a new device if needed.


That's a good point.

I haven't thought about that.

I guess the only we would know is if someone who recently traded their G1 in had the same apps.

If that's the case then it better work.

Imagine though.. even if it does re-download. haha how long would that take?

[Re@lly Dope!]

Money talks, plain and simple. Some apps that are free on the market are cool but others are just pointless. For example, Handango, they make some decent yet useful apps but of course there's a price to pay. If indeed 09 is when there will be "priced" apps on the market I can say for sure that they will be very good. Why ? Developers take time to write these apps and they believe that a profit should made out of hard work ( which I can't blame them for ) which are put into them. So when they say you get what you pay for, they really mean it.

[AndroidUser]

Money talks, plain and simple. Some apps that are free on the market are cool but others are just pointless. For example, Handango, they make some decent yet useful apps but of course there's a price to pay. If indeed 09 is when there will be "priced" apps on the market I can say for sure that they will be very good. Why ? Developers take time to write these apps and they believe that a profit should made out of hard work ( which I can't blame them for ) which are put into them. So when they say you get what you pay for, they really mean it.


Yeah thats a good way of looking at it...

haha i guess this leads to another thing....

All the (what i call) ANDROID winers who are going to pay $20 bucks for an app they don't need and complain and complain about how it isn't like the iPhone or their previous phone. blah blah blah..

I think i read somewhere that google is not responsible.

So lets say an app isn't what somebody wants, you basically just spent your money and that's it..

haha there will be tons of COMPLAINT threads.

[Re@lly Dope!]

Hilarious AndroidUser, sadly that would be the case though. I don't think developers would price apps at a ridiculous amount. Funny thing is that $1000 app which was on apples app store.

[AndroidUser]

Hilarious AndroidUser, sadly that would be the case though. I don't think developers would price apps at a ridiculous amount. Funny thing is that $1000 app which was on apples app store.


haha are you serious?

for $1000 dollars that app better be able to use your phone through mind power. lOl

You never know it is Open Source~

lOl i think you're right though. I doubt they'll get ridiculously high.

But even if the app was 10 cents somebody would still find something to complain about.

I'm not saying that i'm immune to that.. but i'd hate to be around this site when that stage happens.

But all that aside, i think i'm going to go broke in apps. LMAO..

they should set up a prepaid system where you could pay in advance or get gift cards from the store or something..

IDK i'm just ranting i guess :rolleyes:

[Re@lly Dope!]

Hey, if that's the case you'll most likely get charged on your T-mobile bill. Oh yeah about that $1000 app, supposedly it was intended for "rich people" and its like a virtual diamond or something like that lol.

[AndroidUser]

ughh i don't wana get charged on my bill...
especially if my apps add up to more than the actual plan.
This is when the phone will really get addicting.

whoever would pay that much for an app, Bill Gates or otherwise has to be somewhat insane. lOl.. especially for a diamond.

they have a lot to work with for apps that haven't been implemented so well with the current ones.

-accelerometer
-camera
-gps/maps/street view

too bad there's not a teaser on upcoming apps...it sucks not knowing what to expect.

[Re@lly Dope!]

We didn't know what to expect from apple either and look how successful they've turned out on the mobile market with just "one" phone. Google just better not let us down (We invested money in those guys so its only right that they make us look like the smart consumers for trusting in their unproven product.)

[Tunster]

I can only assume that if you pay for apps and have to do a reset/exchange phone, it will all be tagged to your G-Mail account. Makes sense you have to tag your phone to an account right from the start.

No-one has to buy any apps anyway. It'll be interested as that very little open-source apps around (on the Linux train-of-thought) you have to pay for. I guess bigger corps will expect you to pay for their better apps. As always, there will always be just as good free apps that appear. In theory this will make the developers that expect you to pay keep up with development and stay ahead of the free ones.

[fresh_prince86]

haha are you serious?

for $1000 dollars that app better be able to use your phone through mind power. lOl

You never know it is Open Source~

lOl i think you're right though. I doubt they'll get ridiculously high.

But even if the app was 10 cents somebody would still find something to complain about.

I'm not saying that i'm immune to that.. but i'd hate to be around this site when that stage happens.

But all that aside, i think i'm going to go broke in apps. LMAO..

they should set up a prepaid system where you could pay in advance or get gift cards from the store or something..

IDK i'm just ranting i guess :rolleyes:

Funny thing that $1000 app was just a jewel on the screen. 2 people brought it.

[andrews240]

As far as the reliability of paid apps on the Market come 09. Most top mobile app developers release free demos of their pay apps that lets you try before you buy and I am sure that Android will be no exception. If you noticed, there is already a demo section in the Market under applications.

As far as transferring the apps to a new phone. Usually, when purchasing an app, you are provided with a registration key from the developer. Often, the demo app is just a full version that requires a key to gain full functionality. If you do happen to need a replacement phone, you will likely have to reinstall all of your apps and use your "keys" to reactivate them. So, don't loss your keys. A developer will probably write an app just for the purpose to make re-registration of apps and key storage painless.

[shaky777]

As far as the reliability of paid apps on the Market come 09. Most top mobile app developers release free demos of their pay apps that lets you try before you buy and I am sure that Android will be no exception. If you noticed, there is already a demo section in the Market under applications.

As far as transferring the apps to a new phone. Usually, when purchasing an app, you are provided with a registration key from the developer. Often, the demo app is just a full version that requires a key to gain full functionality. If you do happen to need a replacement phone, you will likely have to reinstall all of your apps and use your "keys" to reactivate them. So, don't loss your keys. A developer will probably write an app just for the purpose to make re-registration of apps and key storage painless.


that's what i heard

[CJ Chitwood]

We didn't know what to expect from apple either and look how successful they've turned out on the mobile market with just "one" phone. Google just better not let us down (We invested money in those guys so its only right that they make us look like the smart consumers for trusting in their unproven product.)

The problem here is that Apple was a LOT more constricting with their apps store. They would actively remove apps or reject apps based on low quality. Google's doing the same, but they're taking a FAR more relaxed stance on it.

I think we'll have some good apps, but we'll also have some crap apps. The tough decisions will come when you get all these kids having to say they're first... WTF is that about? Are you special now that you're the first post? Then you get the ones that post for no other reason than to advertise their propaganda, like the ones posting about that one "movie" on youtube... [edit: tough decision will be "do I download this app? 90% of the comments are unrelated. Two comments say it sucks but don't say why. One comment gives a laundry list of fail points, but one comment gives a very convincing list of great points of the app... hmmmmm.... Or, will Google eventually take some responsibility and provide either a method for removing these idiots' comments or doing it themselves?]

At the same time, I think once we have pay-per-apps, you'll have Flash, you'll have PDF, you'll have Office... (my coworker likes my phone but now whenever I show off something on mine, he shows off something on his... he had the first iPhone, now he has the second... yesterday, it was an Office document he opened, edited, rotated with multitouch, and saved on his phone). But then that's also when we'll see people pay for an app that makes a single fart noise.


I can only hope that there's a way to see what apps are on your phone. Not for spying, but for knowing how long you keep it on there. Or alternatively, have the devs program into the app a calendar counter so you only get so many days or so to try it out before you're charged for it.



Now how bout this: What free apps on the market now would you pay money for, and how much would you pay? I personally like FireWallet... It really is useful for me because it's like having a checkbook register with me all the time. I only have my real register with me when I am writing checks, which is almost never. This way, I always have it with me and I can always keep track of my purchases as I make them. Plus, it has a feature for your budgets so you can keep track of how much of your spending goes to different things (yes! Pie charts!) and you can change your spending habits if need be. You can also set what your max spending for each of the budgets is. They do go by month.

I think I'd be willing to pay up to $15 for this app. Keeping in mind, it's still a program that requires a developer to write and test it, but also that it's on a phone, not a full fledged computer. The dev should still get paid a fair amount. Is $15 fair?

[CJ Chitwood]

I can only assume that if you pay for apps and have to do a reset/exchange phone, it will all be tagged to your G-Mail account. Makes sense you have to tag your phone to an account right from the start.



Very good point. +1.



No-one has to buy any apps anyway. It'll be interested as that very little open-source apps around (on the Linux train-of-thought) you have to pay for. I guess bigger corps will expect you to pay for their better apps. As always, there will always be just as good free apps that appear. In theory this will make the developers that expect you to pay keep up with development and stay ahead of the free ones.

Actually, there's nothing about the G1 or the Apps Market that requires an app to be Open Source. They can be as closed source as Adobe Photoshop if they want to be, as long as they didn't use open source projects' code in their project.

[MikeMc]

how much do the apps cost in the apple store on average? i'd rather be paying 10 or 20 bucks for apps in our market? quality will shoot through the roof..

[CJ Chitwood]

A developer will probably write an app just for the purpose to make re-registration of apps and key storage painless.

Yeah, like all those "keep your password" apps on the phone. But wait a minute... you DL the app to keep all your keys, better hope it syncs with a server somewhere because if it just stores them all on the phone that just broke and needs to be replaced......

[constellanation]

i can't remember where i read it but google has said that paid apps in the market will come with either a 24 or 48 hour (i can't remember which) trail period.

that should answer some questions, natural selection should take care of the rest.

[CJ Chitwood]

I hope 48. Sometimes you don't have time to fiddle with your phone long enough to try the app fully. Esp. with travel apps.