RC30 halted

[doobio]

http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=87&message.id=18095#M18095



No, you don't need to worry. Everyone will get the update.

I also just heard the current update was halted do to a few reported issues. I'm sure they'll fix it and restart the distro soon.

With that, I'm done quoting time lines. I'm happy to pass along info, but hate setting false expectations. Let's assume you'll get the update 'soon' and go with that.

It doesn't matter how long you've had your device or what version you're on. Just be patient and it will come.

[dookieshoo]

Still on RC-19.

[doobio]

Still on RC-19.
You're not missing anything.

[embrace LB]

Still on RC-19.

YUP! right there with you. But i actually like it, my phones doing just great no problems.

[doubleokneegro]

me 2 rc19... n it doesntt matter when u got it

[JonFolse]

yep same here rc19. Kinda ticked off I seen everybody with rc29 but whatever. My g1s working good.

[dwang]

All I want is for google to fix the battery life and gps.

I realize that if I select wifi gps, it won't be as accurate, but half the time it can't even find my location at all. Whats that all about.

[Johno007]

Just got RC30, haven't noticed any differences as of yet

[dkvitus]

just updated to rc30 about 30mins ago...

i just realized u cant save #s from txt msgs to your contact, longpress only gives u options for msg not sender/number... but this has probably been there ever since

[DiscoDapper]

I hate to say this but the G1 has an 1100mah battery. Not sure how much more run time they can squeeze out of it with all the radios and a pretty high res screen chewing away at it... but here's hoping, right? For comparison the iP**** has a 1400mah battery and it doesn't get that much better battery life than you would expect with those numbers, I think.

I would pick up the extended battery eventually as that is 1600mah and should last through most of a day with relatively heavy usage (unless of course it's a bunk battery).

What I do hope they can implement is to let the OS force apps to turn the necessary radios on and off as needed without prompting. That should let the battery run a bit longer.

[outsider]

I got it a few minutes ago. Turned it down a few times today too for that matter.

[Stericson]

Outsider, be forewarned that rc30 will force itself onto your phone, in time, unless you upgrade to the modified one. Although, you could also try deleting it, I believe it is stored in /cache

[kaysesoze]

just got the update about 1hr ago... rc30.. from rc28

[schumann]

Some people are saying that RC30 update increase battery performance...Is it true or a tale??Any body has idea about it?

[Crashdamage]

dwang wrote:

...fix the battery life and gps. I realize that if I select wifi gps, it won't be as accurate...There's nothing wrong with GPS. And there is no such thing as "WiFi GPS", the location functions of the G1 have nothing to do with WiFi. You misunderstand how GPS works. Like any other phone with GPS, the G1 works much like a Garmin unit, which means it requires line-of-sight to GPS satellites, just like satellite TV dishes do. If you're inside or you turn GPS off the G1 locates you by triangulation of the 3 closest cell towers. If GPS is on, it does the triangulation first to narrow your location down, then does pinpoint location by GPS satellite (if available). Leave both location functions on for best and fastest results.

DiscoDapper wrote:

Not sure how much more run time they can squeeze out of it with all the radios and a pretty high res screen chewing away at it... but here's hoping, right? For comparison the iP**** has a 1400mah battery and it doesn't get that much better battery life...pick up the extended battery eventually as that is 1600mah and should last through most of a day with relatively heavy usage.Exactly. It is what it is. It simply takes a certain amount of energy to run the various hardware, transmit a sufficiently strong signal, etc.

I do hope they can implement is to let the OS force apps to turn the necessary radios on and off as needed without prompting.It already does. Always has.

schumann wrote:

Some people are saying that RC30 update increase battery performance...Is it true or a tale??Nothing in any update so far (and I have RC30 installed) has anything to do with battery life and probably none will in the future either. No phone or OS has a silver bullet or a magical special update in the works that will suddenly overcome simple physics. Battery life is just very dependent on: A. What you use the phone for and B. How much you use it.

As for me, I haven't noticed a problem with battery life. It's about like the iPhone, as I expected. Used for similar things for a similar amount of time, the G1 and iPhone have about the same battery life. At least the G1's is removable.

[CJ Chitwood]

Nothing in any update so far (and I have RC30 installed) has anything to do with battery life and probably none will in the future either. No phone or OS has a silver bullet or a magical special update in the works that will suddenly overcome simple physics. Battery life is just very dependent on: A. What you use the phone for and B. How much you use it.

As for me, I haven't noticed a problem with battery life. It's about like the iPhone, as I expected. Used for similar things for a similar amount of time, the G1 and iPhone have about the same battery life. At least the G1's is removable.

I think what people are expecting is, perhaps, an update that will cycle the radios a little more frequently -- duty cycle. Turn them on for short periods just to check for signal, see if there's a RING coming through, etc. I think this may be why sometimes when someone calls you you never hear it ring, then they hang up, then an hour later you notice you have three missed calls from this person when they finally find your landline number and call you.

I don't know what the current duty cycle is on the radios in the phone, if not 100%, but I'm thinking people are expecting that the duty cycle can be decreased with a minimal effect on service. If that's the case, then an update could very well impact battery life.

Not trying to argue with you, because I agree with your statements. Just trying to add that little bit to them.

Still, the #1 way to conserve battery is not to use the phone. Period.

On my phone, Friday (before RC30) I could set it on my desk at work and if I don't touch it I think I still had like 30 to 45 percent battery left after 9 hours (speaking with my wife for 20 minutes at lunch being my only use of the phone). One of these days I 'll remember to check it at work more scientifically.

But seriously, in today's computer-based environment, with USB *EVERYWHERE*, why would you need longer battery life? Just plug it in to the nearest USB port. Granted, people who go on week-long hikes might get little use out of it without extra batteries but seriously, these people take Garmins with them, not G1s. The G1 is like the multifunction slicer shredder dicer mixer that we all have in our kitchens but that you'd never find in a professional/restaraunt kitchen. It does multiple functions well enough for the humble amateur but when it comes to serious stuff you need serious, dedicated tools.

For the majority of us, simply disabling WiFi and GPS, and enabling them ONLY when we need them, and turn the screen brightness down as low as you can stand (bottom is good for me in all but outside, and even then it's not unusable) is the best thing we can do to make the battery last longer. Simply enough, they should have given a larger battery with the phone to begin with.

[Crashdamage]

CJ Chitwood wrote:

...disabling WiFi and GPS, and enabling them ONLY when we need them, and turn the screen brightness down as low as you can...is the best thing we can do to make the battery last longer.Basically I agree. But one thing - there's no point in turning off GPS unless you don't intend to use it at all. It already only runs when needed, i.e. only when you have the little satellite icon in the tool bar. WiFi is kinda different...like GPS it only runs when in the toolbar yes, but there may be lotsa times when you don't have any intention of using it and it pops up and starts searching for a signal anyway, wasting a little battery. So I used AnyCut to make a shortcut to Wireless Controls and only turn WiFi on when I specifically want it on.

As for giving the G1 a bigger battery, it was a design decision, as usual, a compromise. Bigger battery = longer life, but heavier, larger phone vs smaller battery = shorter life, but smaller, lighter phone. I think they got the battery size about right between the two. I may try the 1600mah extended battery - and hope it's not a piece of crap and sets my pants on fire.

[schumann]

crashdamage i lyk ur bottom line dude....hehehehe

[DiscoDapper]

@Crashdamage: Ahh, I didn't know that about the GPS antenna only coming on line when called upon by software. So does that mean that it does NOT drain battery at all in it's sleep (but not off) state?

I use wifi at home quite a bit as my 3G connection has been pretty flaky. I can drain the battery down to like 20% by streaming music and browsing the net in about 2.5-3 hours. Same constant usage pattern with 3G: about 3.5-4 hrs. And yes, I actually do that almost nightly... hang out in the backyard and chill until the battery meter turns orange.