Apple wants Samsung to pay up, asking huge price for use of five patents

March 11, 2014
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Apple and Samsung are back at it, with Apple reportedly demanding a huge per-device amount in settlement talks. According to a filing obtained by FOSS Patents, Apple wants a staggering $40 per Samsung device sold. This is in response to five patents Apple said were used without licensing, and their $40 reasoning seems more than slightly off-base.

The five patents in question deal with a variety of normal smartphone operation, so we’re not quite sure just how Apple’s argument will hold up. Apple is seeking damages based on a patent regarding unified search, as well as dialing numbers on a device by pressing them. There is also a patent related to auto-complete, and the oft-discussed slide to unlock. Data syncing is also in question.

Apple’s reasoning for the $40 per device is pretty odd, too. Their argument is that had Samsung agreed to licensing the patents in the first place, Apple would have charged them $8 per device, theorizing that Samsung would have raised device prices to cover the expense (essentially, Apple argues that because Samsung didn’t roll over to them, then stick it to us as consumers, they’re naughty). Now they want $8 per patent — or $40 total — per device.

This simply won’t hold up for Apple. The damage estimate is based on theories about what Samsung may have done versus hard fact. Samsung may have simply marketed their devices much more aggressively to sell additional units, covering cost that way. We don’t know what may have gone down, and neither does Apple.

Via: SlashGear


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  • Abstaining from Apple

    I’m sick of Apple, Apple products, and Apple users (especially the newer users). This coming from someone with three decades of Mac ownership. Apple is now getting boring, trite, and full of themselves (I believe that word is hubris?). The very company that rebelled against the establishment is now the establishment. I yearn for a Dark Horse in the tech scene.

    • Cocaine

      You care way too much about how people spend their money. Do you also lash out at women with Chanel and Gucci handbags? You know, since almost same handbags can also be bought at Marshalls.

      • Mike Law

        Isn’t the way that people spend their money, how large companies become empowered? Next thing you know they got you by the balls. That said people can do as they wish with their limited free will. It only affects their children in the future so no big deal since they will be too old or dead.

      • Cocaine

        “people can do as they wish with their limited free will” I tip my sombrero to you, good sir. What is your level in FREE WILL, because I am seeking to level mine up because Apple used my lack of euphoria and forced me to buy an iPhone, instead of the Galaxy Mini Droid Active S69. I don’t want to make that mistake again.

      • Mike Law

        Did i say Apple forced sheeple to buy their products. I must of edited my previous post because i thought it looked stupid :D They probably buy them because the price tag usually means a sign of success or class to an idiot, or it’s to be one of the cool kids. Many people in my organisation asked for IPhones and IPads due to popularity, hype and marketing of the products and since regretted the decision. Due to consistent F*** ups in Apples IOS updates, which require me to either create permanent or temporary fixes until Apple pull the finger out and fix it themselves. Iv’e had one problem with android devices in the past couple of years compared to Apples almost monthly batch of crap, and the problems are inconsistent as they don’t always affect all users.
        The point is, those people didn’t ask for Apple devices because they knew they were better, they wanted them because other people/celebrities in high positions have them.
        What you end up with are companies that become so big with expensive products that aren’t actually any better, ruling the market and crushing most new competition, also making it hard for good open source projects carried out by some extremely good programmers to get anything out there non-profit wise.

      • Cocaine

        So what you’re saying is that: you’re a faggot.

      • Mike Law

        LOL, that’s almost Argumentum ad Hominem. I see you finally show your character and intelligence.

      • Cocaine

        Dude, shut the fuck up, I don’t want to talk to you. And don’t want disable my notifications, just shut the fuck up. You win-> “whatever the fuck you want to read” Just shhhhhhh now.

      • Mike Law

        LOL, dude all you had to do was stop replying, especially if you didn’t want to talk to me. You didn’t even need to reply in the first place. Though iv’e gone from being pissed off with an idiot to laughing at one, so thanks.

  • Gilbert Gonzalez

    Can we get a commercial with an Android hurling a hammer at the screen? LOL

  • Cocaine

    This website is so baised it makes fox news look good. Mostly the commentators that is.

  • Mike Law

    You all got ripped by Apple anyway. Apple products are for dummies that don’t really know how to use technology or how technology works. At least with Android when i spot a problem or security flaw i can fix it there and then and report to Android Developers. I don’t let companies like Apple hold me by the balls. You all forget that Android is younger than Apple and has more people working on it, it won’t be many more years before Android and open source projects surpass all the competition. It’s stupid to think that the best developers in the world are working for the big companies when there are so many more people that have the intelligence to do better, but just been unlucky in life.

    • Cocaine

      Another preaching to the choir comment, do you guys do any kind of productive discussing in these comments?

      • Mike Law

        Lol, same said for the reply. It’s an opinion not really preaching at all. Hardly makes me less productive since this is the first time i posted here and it was more of a blast at stupid people. Since the world is ruled by majority and the majority are stupid, i like to attack and abuse those stupid people to try and make them feel bad about themselves (mostly doesn’t work but i feel a little relieved) in a poor attempt to push them to actually start thinking for themselves. Not to be the dummy that can uses technology but has no idea how it works at all, but to be an intelligent being that is curious and builds a thirst for knowledge and bettering ones self. Rather than being this pathetic being that only seeks money and or fame, status and class.
        However this is just an opinion, a vent to blow off some steam after spending hours on the phone with a complete r****d, trying to explain a simple problem. :)

      • Cocaine

        Not going to even spend a second reading your reply, but just answer this: Do you not see how pathetic you are? Like seriously, you are posting paragraphs of CIRCLEJERK comments, basically you are just begging for likes dude. Find something else to write essays about. These circlejerk comments are no different than saying “N*iggers are monkeys” in a hillbilly town. Circlejerking with the majority does not make you better than anyone or anything.

      • Mike Law

        :D CIRCLEJERK, i like that term. Not at all what your doing replying to all comments that seem angry etc..
        Not sure how voicing any sort of opinion is pathetic but if that is actually the case then maybe replying to those opinions with an opinion is just as pathetic, just saying.
        Also you forgot to consider the fact that i couldn’t give a monkey’s whether any comments i make anywhere on the internet receive likes or dislikes. Since it actually holds no value to me in life whatsoever.
        Either way i’d like to thank you since i am now relieved of stress today and in receiving your replies it has brought a little smile to my face. I suppose you could always try and start up your own internet, policed to just what you want to see. :)

      • Cocaine

        I removed what I wrote, after reading the retarded shit you wrote. And you obviously don’t know what a circlejerk is if you’re accusing me of it. Google is free dude, use it. How is “I like to attack and abuse those stupid people to try and make them feel bad about themselves” an opinion? And your non about majority makes literally no sense.

      • Mike Law

        The dude’s actual reply before complete edit:

        “Not going to even spend a second reading your reply, but just answer this: Do you not see how pathetic you are? Like seriously, you are posting paragraphs of CIRCLEJERK comments, like you are literally begging for likes dude. Find something else to write essays about. These circlejerk comments are no different than saying “N*iggers are monkeys” in a hillbilly town. Just appeal to the majority, wow you must be really smart!”