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Android not there yet?

25 September 2009 by Shane McGlaun


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Android has been on the market for a year now and according to the San Francisco Chronicle the Os is still “not there yet.” With all the Android handsets and other devices being launched onto the market and the buzz that Android devices are creating it is hard to see where the OS is failing though it still needs a few improvements.

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On the market today, there is the original G1 from T-Mobile that sold a million units the first month and now we have the myTouch 3G and a slew of devices form HTC and Motorola. The OS has a strong developer community and many of the major carriers are offering Android devices at home and abroad.

It seems that Android is doing well, the OS isn’t as popular as Windows mobile or the iPhone in terms of the number of handsets on the market, but it’s popular. Android isn’t perfect yet, but it is doing well.

  1. Not surprising....there are still a handful of features that Android doesn't do that 5 or 6 year old handsets had as standard features. Bluetooth operability comes to mind here.

    It's still missing a lot of the polish of the iPhone, but the function is there. Heck, I had a co-worker come show me his brand new iPhone 3GS. He was showing off the equivalent of the Google Sky app. I kinda shrugged and pointed out I'd had that on the G1 nearly from the outset. Apple was playing catchup here. But when I looked at it on his 3GS, I have to admit it simply looked better than the Google app. It had a lot of pop and polish to it. Performance was the same, the information was the same, but if I had to pick one I liked better, the Apple app took the honors.

    Stuff like that is why reviews will continue to say that Android isn't "quite there yet".
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by f4phantomii View Post

    It's still missing a lot of the polish of the iPhone, but the function is there. Heck, I had a co-worker come show me his brand new iPhone 3GS. He was showing off the equivalent of the Google Sky app. I kinda shrugged and pointed out I'd had that on the G1 nearly from the outset. Apple was playing catchup here. But when I looked at it on his 3GS, I have to admit it simply looked better than the Google app. It had a lot of pop and polish to it. Performance was the same, the information was the same, but if I had to pick one I liked better, the Apple app took the honors.

    Stuff like that is why reviews will continue to say that Android isn't "quite there yet".
    I do agree with you there. I noticed this for several different apps that have the same functionality. I don't know what it could be, maybe its just the developers for iPhone are getting paid more? or they spend more time on those apps to bring that polish to them. But the Google sky map, should be the same if not better on the G1 since it is on their OS. I usually am the type to say function over form, so I try to ignore it, but there is a difference in the apps.
  3. the google skymap was an independent developer who's app they purchased. not sure how much they put into it after they bought it but for the most part it looked the same.
  4. Could it possibly be a hardware issue, e.g., screen resolution, color depth, etc.? If it is software dev issues falling short then there is really no excuse for that.
  5. yeah, and when it comes to games, Android isnt even close to the Iphone.

    Have you seens that Vans Off The Wall skateboarding game for the iphone? It's incredibly good.. we simply have nothing even in the ballpark.
  6. When talking about Apps, of course the iPhone OS has a bigger selection and hence, some much higher quality Apps. It's share of the market is more than 10x the share Android has. In terms of specs, the G1 can easily push out apps that reach a similar level of polish and "wow factor", (i've seen some damned impressive Open GL demo apps) but its just a matter of how many man hours dev shops are willing to put into the platforms. As of yet, not many shops are putting much time into Android, not because of the OS itself, but because of the smaller install base. As the number of units approaches parity with the iPhone sales, I'm sure we'll see the number of big game devs pushing harder on Android as a platform. They go where the eyes are, and as Android comes up on every major carrier with handsets from 5-10 different manufacturers, this is pretty much a sure think IMHO.
  7. The reason that Android isn't there yet is simple. Hardware!! The handsets are inferior to the Iphone, mostly in the area of usable memory. The apps are better on the Iphone because they are bigger. Iphone users can download 2. 3. 5 MB apps without worrying about it slowing their phone down or getting a notice that they are nearing the limit of their memory. Its the reason I will switch to an Iphone when my contract is up. I love Android but as long as it continues to be put on substandard hardware, Apple will rule.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by constellanation View Post
    the google skymap was an independent developer who's app they purchased. not sure how much they put into it after they bought it but for the most part it looked the same.
    Google Sky Map was created as a 20% project by half a dozen engineers in Google Pittsburgh, and released under the radar to get a cool idea out the door fast.

    When the project was ready for prime time, it was adopted formally as Google Sky Map. None of this process was hush-hush or secret, this information has been there in the credits and acknowledgements throughout.
  9. all i can say after flashing to Cyanogens Mod is that whoever reviewed this has not seen what the phone can really do!


    I have run about everything on my phone and for the first time i am truely pleased with the performance. not to mention the themes are great too.

    if Google is smart they will embrace Open Source Development even more and watch the competition melt away.
  10. i think some of the comments on the Google phone vs the Iphone that are presented in that article are a bit skewed. For example:
    With those lofty goals, Android seems off to a slow start. Michael Gartenberg, an analyst at Interpret, called the initial G1 "incomplete" for failing to support some basic functions such as Microsoft Exchange synch.

    The iphone didn't have exchange support from the onset either and its done quite well for itself. I think the Android platform has done more in less time than the iphone platform. That said, the iphone is a very well done phone with an overwhelmingly larger support base and amount of developers and accessory manufacturers. I think overtime, no single android phone will even come close to matching the sales of any single iphone, but the overall android vs iphone numbers will be much closer.

  11. android is an open surce os and it will never get bigger than iphone because google is a pice of crap and is stopping every one who has made the g1 n g2 the best phone on the market. google is going after the developers who are making the os better than the one google gave us . google can go suck it and its so call OS. they say is going to be an iphone killer but in reality they wont make it close if they keep going after those devs that are making it better!!!!!!!!!!!!
  12. For me, the real weakness is in Bluetooth functionality. There needs to be the ability to exchange files with a computer, and it needs to be more car-friendly...hands-free dialing.
  13. This article is crap. Quoting stuff from when the G1 launched a year ago? Things are completely different now. We've had exchange support for months now...there are free apps on the market.



    It's as if people don't think about the fact that Android is less than 365 days old and they're comparing it to the iPhone which is almost 2.5 years old.

    Where was the iPhone after almost a year?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by f4phantomii View Post
    Not surprising....there are still a handful of features that Android doesn't do that 5 or 6 year old handsets had as standard features. Bluetooth operability comes to mind here.

    It's still missing a lot of the polish of the iPhone, but the function is there. Heck, I had a co-worker come show me his brand new iPhone 3GS. He was showing off the equivalent of the Google Sky app. I kinda shrugged and pointed out I'd had that on the G1 nearly from the outset. Apple was playing catchup here. But when I looked at it on his 3GS, I have to admit it simply looked better than the Google app. It had a lot of pop and polish to it. Performance was the same, the information was the same, but if I had to pick one I liked better, the Apple app took the honors.

    Stuff like that is why reviews will continue to say that Android isn't "quite there yet".
    What? There are apps to do everything you need with Bluetooth...mainly file transfer.

    Sure, it's missing the polish. But what do you expect? The G1 has been out for less than a year and has not had a single hardware revision.

    The iPhone 3GS is the third revision and it just finally got basic things like video recording. The G1 didn't launch with it, but had free video recording apps within a few months.

    The original iPhone didn't have 3g. I had a cheap $100 Nokia N75 that had 3g...yet this hailed expensive as hell phone didn't?



    In another 18 months, when Android will have been out as long as the iPhone has been out...things will be 200% different.



    Plus, the iPhone lovers don't realize that the iPhone can only do one thing...apps. The G1 has apps, plus a desktop and widgets. As we all being Open Source which is pretty much always superior.

    And the stock G1 is inferior to one of the many custom ROMs to choose from.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by quint9 View Post
    The reason that Android isn't there yet is simple. Hardware!! The handsets are inferior to the Iphone, mostly in the area of usable memory. The apps are better on the Iphone because they are bigger. Iphone users can download 2. 3. 5 MB apps without worrying about it slowing their phone down or getting a notice that they are nearing the limit of their memory. Its the reason I will switch to an Iphone when my contract is up. I love Android but as long as it continues to be put on substandard hardware, Apple will rule.
    Memory? How are you on AndroidCommunity and didn't root your phone? I have like 500MB for apps...space is not an issue. It's not a reason to switch to the iPhone...but then again if you're not savvy enough to root your phone(seriously it's one button now...)...then the iPhone is designed for those that can't handle a little complexity.

    The iPhone can't multitask...so of course it runs faster when it's only running one App versus Android that can run a plethora. Have you tried the multitasking apps for the iPhone? The phone becomes extremely slow. Of course if you run CyanogenMod or one of the other good ROMs, speed issues and memory issues are gone.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sastian View Post
    all i can say after flashing to Cyanogens Mod is that whoever reviewed this has not seen what the phone can really do!


    I have run about everything on my phone and for the first time i am truely pleased with the performance. not to mention the themes are great too.

    if Google is smart they will embrace Open Source Development even more and watch the competition melt away.
    CyanogenMod makes a world of difference. The various Hero roms are really fun to use too. HTC did a pretty good job with SenseUI.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by darico18 View Post
    android is an open surce os and it will never get bigger than iphone because google is a pice of crap and is stopping every one who has made the g1 n g2 the best phone on the market. google is going after the developers who are making the os better than the one google gave us . google can go suck it and its so call OS. they say is going to be an iphone killer but in reality they wont make it close if they keep going after those devs that are making it better!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Oh please, Google is doing what they need to do. If Android couldn't make money, it wouldn't have been made in the first place...Google is doing what any business needs to do and protect their closed source ip. Nothing is going to really change, open source versions of the Google apps will be made and you won't even notice the difference. Cyanogen is still making ROMs and Android is still kick ass.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mr_strat View Post
    For me, the real weakness is in Bluetooth functionality. There needs to be the ability to exchange files with a computer, and it needs to be more car-friendly...hands-free dialing.
    There is a free app on the market called Bluetooth File Transfer. I was surprised that we didn't have full fledged bluetooth to start with, but we do now. Compare that issue with the iPhone not having 3g to start with...

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